Cable+housing weight

[Lionel]

I am planning a new bike build and adding up all the various weights.

How much should I account for cable and housing for the whole bike?

Thanks

[jlwdm]

Don't be so concerned about weight on your bike. Low weight does not equal a great bike.

Weight wienies probably has some weights for cables though. Also check the manufacturers or sites selling good cables.

Jeff

[gdw]

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...hp?type=cables

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by Lionel

I am planning a new bike build and adding up all the various weights.

How much should I account for cable and housing for the whole bike?

Thanks

A suggestion: build the bike, then weigh it...save yourself all kinds of grief...

Just a thought,

Steve

PS: Or just ride with one water bottle, you will save yourself a lot more weight doing that and then you can use heavier cables and housing.

[Ken Robb]

Originally Posted by Lionel

I am planning a new bike build and adding up all the various weights.

How much should I account for cable and housing for the whole bike?

Thanks

Why worry about something that you can't do without??

[gdw]

The guy asked a simple question and deserves an answer not a lecture.

[soulspinner]

See also Wrenchscience-build with the group you are using and at the end of the biuld they itemize...

[Lionel]

Originally Posted by gdw

The guy asked a simple question and deserves an answer not a lecture.

I was expecting some of that lecturing, it does not bother me The weight weenie web site lists the complete set of campy cable and housing at 248g. Given that you get rid of quite a bit of the housing I may guess 150g to 200g for the whole bike.

Nokon may save a bit of weight but I hear it is a pain to install.

[Lionel]

Originally Posted by SoCalSteve

PS: Or just ride with one water bottle, you will save yourself a lot more weight doing that and then you can use heavier cables and housing.

Once I get an estimate of the weight for cable and housing I think this statement could be challenged. A water bottle holder can be 18g.

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by Lionel

Once I get an estimate of the weight for cable and housing I think this statement could be challenged. A water bottle holder can be 18g.

Water bottle, not cage...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Lionel

I was expecting some of that lecturing, it does not bother me The weight weenie web site lists the complete set of campy cable and housing at 248g. Given that you get rid of quite a bit of the housing I may guess 150g to 200g for the whole bike.

Nokon may save a bit of weight but I hear it is a pain to install.

150-200 grams is a reasonable estimate, since most frames no longer use full length rear brake housing and some of the shift cable and housing is usually cut off. I weighed a full set, with the plastic wrapper and got 250 grams.

If you're building with 2009 ergopower, Nokon won't fit. The new levers require shift cables that are no larger than 4.1mm, with no ferrules on the ends that are inserted into the ergopower body. Either Campy 11 speed or other 4mm cables are needed.

[Lionel]

Thanks. Looks like 170g is a good estimate. Below a cut and paste of the details I got on the weight weenies forum.

Pretty much in line with what Dave said. As I will be building with 2009 Super Record seems that I will just use the Campy cables and housing.

"The brake housing will weigh around 65-75 grams, the derailleur housing between 50-60 grams.
The brake cables will be around 20 grams, and the derailleur cables around 8-10 grams.

Weights per centimeter:

Brake Housing: 0.59 g/cm
Derailleur Housing: 0.39 g/cm

Brake Cable: 0.13 g/cm
Derailleur Cable: 0.073 g/cm"

[cadence90]

FWIW, I have Nokon housing/cables, on a 59cm frame.
Shifters =76 and brakes = 54 = 130g.

But I wouldn't do it again: it is a pain to install and not worth it, in my opinion.

[false_Aest]

130-170g??!?! SHEEEEESH! That's too heavy.


I'm takin' my cables off.

[stuckey]

I like Nokon cables, I do not think they are harder to install then any of the rest. The big bonus is the liner will go through the top tube on internal frames.