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Old 01-03-2008, 09:27 PM
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I'm damn proud to be an American tonight

I don't want to get into an overtly political discussion, but I'm enormously proud of the overwhelmingly white voters of Iowa tonight, who voted for a black man in a caucus that was settled over any number of issues, with race not being significant among them. This stuff is starting to happen more and more often in smaller races around the country and seeing it in a presidential caucus is HUGE. I don't care what your politics are or whether you like Obama or don't, but you gotta be pleased to know this is finally possible in the America of 2007.

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:28 PM
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:30 PM
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Ray, I fully agree. We're not where we need to be on that score, but we're getting closer, and this is another sign.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:34 PM
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But in the end people will always vote for the guy with the best hair.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:37 PM
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But in the end people will always vote for the guy with the best hair.

the best..........yes, but not perfect........everyone knows you can't trust a person with PERFECT hair.

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:42 PM
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Is that Chuck Norris on stage with Mike Huckabee?
Never would have called that one in a million years...

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:45 PM
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Is that Chuck Norris on stage with Mike Huckabee?
Never would have called that one in a million years...

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:47 PM
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I was very, very happy at the results tonight. Chuck Norris' wife is hot atmo.

Props out to Mr. Obama. It's not a matter now of whether I will or will not vote for you, it's about the fact that you did something today which was assuredly not possible just a short time ago. Your win was not based on decals, color schemes or marketing, but on the integrity of your own framework atmo.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:48 PM
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How 'bout them Hawkeye's??

Don't get too carried away on the significance of the IA caucus, remember Howard Dean a few short years ago. Blew his wad in IA so to speak, that was his one hit..

Huck and Chuck. Gonna be an interesting election cycle.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:50 PM
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Don't get too carried away on the significance of the IA caucus, remember Howard Dean a few short years ago. Blew his wad in IA so to speak, that was his one hit..

Huck and Chuck. Gonna be an interesting election cycle.
Dean had too much coffee that night ATMO ATMO ATMO WHEW YAH!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:51 PM
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Don't get too carried away on the significance of the IA caucus, remember Howard Dean a few short years ago. Blew his wad in IA so to speak, that was his one hit..

Huck and Chuck. Gonna be an interesting election cycle.
Yeah, but Dean LOST in Iowa - finished third IIRC. He led in the polls up until the last week or two, but he lost in in the caucus. Kerry came, seemingly from out of nowhere, and won. And went on to the nomination. With Edwards second. Not saying Obama will, but he's gotta be the favorite for the Democratic nomination at this point.

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:56 PM
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but my personal experience is that there is as much, if not more, racism in the North. It's just comes packaged in a more subtle, demeaning form. I predict Clinton will carry the entire Northeast. And I wouldn't be surprised if Obama makes a strong showing in the South.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:57 PM
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It's the first stage in a spring classic race atmo. Losing tonight is not the end, but winning tonight offers the 'big mo' (momentum).

Momentum = Peete's coffee
Losing tonight = a cup of Earl Grey tea
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I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but my personal experience is that there is as much, if not more, racism in the North. It's just comes packaged in a more subtle, demeaning form. I predict Clinton will carry the entire Northeast. And I wouldn't be surprised if Obama makes a strong showing in the South.
Oddly, everything you offered could wind up to be a complete 180*.

(you forgot what the North fought for from 1860-1865 atmo).
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