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Old 09-07-2007, 01:42 PM
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Serotta Fierte Carbon/Ti

I currently ride a 2003 Legend Ti Custom (all ti except the F1 fork) with all Campy Record components (175 crank), Serotta Ti stem 105mm, and Mavic Kysrium ES w/GP 4000's. The geometry is: ST-58 CtoC, Top Tube 56cm center to center no slope, Seat Tube angle 74, and Chain Stays 42cm.

I am considering purchasing a 2006 58cm carbon/ti Fierte demo with stock geometry. The geo as listed by Srerotta is ST length 52, St angle 73, TT 56.5, TT slope 9, Head tube angle 73, HT length 19, Chain stay 42.

My Legend fits well. However I am not familiar with the difference a slope tube will make in fit or handling.

My main concerns are will it fit? And the difference in the ride compared to my Legend. I will be appreciative of any input.

I am a fit, active 63 y.o. male and have been into athletics all my life. I currently ride 4 days a week for 30-40 miles 18-20mph, and complete about 3 centuries a year. I ride both flat, rolling terrain and 3-4 times a year ride in the mountains.

I will be buying this bike through a dealer in another state.

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Old 09-07-2007, 01:51 PM
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This might be......

a good question to pose to Serotta directly. They could look up the specs on your Legend Ti (via serial#) and give an estimate as to how this new purchase you're considering might fit you.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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a good question to pose to Serotta directly. They could look up the specs on your Legend Ti (via serial#) and give an estimate as to how this new purchase you're considering might fit you.
Maybe they can't look up info on older bikes like his Legend. One of the Forumites was told recently that the database for older frames was in a software that they can no longer open on their new computers. Rats! That makes buying a used custom riskier.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:51 PM
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If so......

my bad.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:56 PM
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I have contacted Serotta and would still be interested in input from forum members.

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Old 09-07-2007, 03:03 PM
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I have sent Serotta an e-mail and would still like to hear from any forum members.

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Old 09-07-2007, 03:05 PM
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Small change made in description of bike geometry.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:08 PM
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Any input will be appreciated.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:11 PM
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Having trouble posting my edited message.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:14 PM
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Well, in that case....

here's my $0.02.

As far as reach goes, the seat angle on your Legend is 74 degrees and top tube 56 cm. On the Fierte demo, seat angle is 73 degrees and TT 56.5. To keep your same position over the cranks, your effective TT is 0.5 cm shorter on the Fierte. So, you're probably OK on reach. If you can tell this 0.5 cm difference (I probably couldn't), if you can find it, you could use a stem that's 0,5 cm longer.

My concern is about standover height. Your Legend is 58 cm c-c for seat tube. The Fierte is 52 cm for seat tube but a 9 cm slope, if I understand it, makes this effectively a 61 cm c-c seat tube, nearly 3 cm taller than your Legend. If I am correct about how to interpret "slope", you may not have the standover clearance on the Fierte you have with your Legend.

People more knowledgeable than I can feel free to weigh in here.

Good luck with your search.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:17 PM
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So a 56 cm seat tube may fit?
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:20 PM
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This may be a case of don't buy it if I can't ride it.
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Old 09-07-2007, 03:27 PM
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bro i don't know much but...the legend is a...... legend .

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Old 09-07-2007, 04:03 PM
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In terms of character, I'd describe the ride of the all-Ti Fierté as a "creamy buzz" and the ride of my Nove as "creamy smooth". Both are pretty d@mn nice as far as road feedback, just slightly different.

But I believe geometry will make more of a difference in your long-term enjoyment of a bike. I don't have anything to offer on the differences between your Legend and a stock Fierté IT.
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:08 PM
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The Fierte is 52 cm for seat tube but a 9 cm slope, if I understand it, makes this effectively a 61 cm c-c seat tube, nearly 3 cm taller than your Legend. If I am correct about how to interpret "slope", you may not have the standover clearance on the Fierte you have with your Legend.
Nah, plenty of standover clearance. He won't be straddling it right at the headtube.
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