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Old 03-07-2016, 06:46 AM
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sram and shimano on future of road discs.

From Cycling tips...shimano on road disc's future(yes they are a-coming) and sram..why I don't like sram..IMHO-big IMHO..

http://cyclingtips.com/2013/10/disc-...he-future-hold

arrogance with a capital 'A'..

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"People who criticize disc brakes have not ridden them. For those people who want to stand by ‘tradition’, I say that there’s lots of things that are ‘traditional’ in road cycling. Taking drugs is ‘tradition’, but you know what? That has to change as well."

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"Shimano doesn’t see this as just a fad and I think that there’s a spot in the market for a completely different category of bikes using disc brakes. [But] I can’t see caliper brakes vanishing and becoming obsolete."

out-take it leave it...just irks me.

Disc related article from Bike Radar

http://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/gea...it-video-44489
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:26 AM
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also from Sram rep:
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I see all bikes evolving to disc brakes. ... I think the change to road disc brakes will be swifter and more strategic than it was to mountain bikes. The reason I think that is because carbon rims (full carbon clinchers) are such a safety issue with all these newcomers not knowing how to brake. Essentially it’s become a safety issue to run a rim brake on a carbon braking surface. The braking power is not good enough.
Sram has a major dog in the fight for discs: Zipp. so of course they'd love it if every bike went that way. no more research into better braking surfaces nor fear of people exploding the things and crashing.

that said, I totally agree that it's an a-hole viewpoint. and I find it hilarious that a company that owns the biggest wheel name in the biz will say that braking power simply isn't good enough and that it's a safety issue. so...why'd you sell the wheels then? and you're admitting you sold hazardous stuff? interesting...
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:31 AM
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Been spending a lot of time off of discs and on calipers again and its reenforcing to me that, yes, I think hydro disc brakes feel and brake better and more predictably blah blah blah, but my dura ace caliper brakes really do provide all the stopping power I need in 99.9999999999% of the situations.
It's that .0000000001 I worry about.


In any event, for Shimano's "we don't expect them to go away" bit...two words...v-brakes, mountain bikes.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:33 AM
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Is that a two year old article?
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:39 AM
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Oh no the old man is at it again. Let’s see how many pages will we have this time for this thread?

Regardless of what pros will use, manufacturers are flooding the market with both low and high end road bikes with disc brakes. I was kind of coaching a couple of new riders for our club and was surprised to see their newly bought lower end road bikes with disc brakes. I think it is irreverent what pros will use for the adaptation of disc brakes on road bikes for the mass market.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:42 AM
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Is that a two year old article?
Yes.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:43 AM
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Oh no the old man is at it again. Let’s see how many pages will we have this time for this thread?

Regardless of what pros will use, manufacturers are flooding the market with both low and high end road bikes with disc brakes. I was kind of coaching a couple of new riders for our club and was surprised to see their newly bought lower end road bikes with disc brakes. I think it is irreverent what pros will use for the adaptation of disc brakes on road bikes for the mass market.
Road discs are coming or are here. That is undeniable.

Not...my...point....remove all reference to disc brakes..my point remains..

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Old 03-07-2016, 08:01 AM
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Oh no the old man is at it again. Let’s see how many pages will we have this time for this thread?
yes.
It has been at least a few days since we've heard that SRAM is terrible stuff, no?
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:14 AM
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i got way too far into this thread before i realized nobody was talking about these.
then i thought maybe the issue was integrating disc rotors onto disc wheels.
then i was wrong again.

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Old 03-07-2016, 09:20 AM
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Guy spends so much time letting people know how much he dislikes something...
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:41 AM
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Guy spends so much time letting people know how much he dislikes something...
Yeah, never mind that he makes a ton of posts telling folks how to fix stuff or workaround problems!
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:02 AM
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Guy spends so much time letting people know how much he dislikes something...
My time, read or don't, see below for the proper German of, 'makes no difference to moi'....
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:05 AM
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max nix.
Ugh....

It's "Es macht nichts." Butchery of the German language...
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Retro style ride yesterday. Did not die of embarrassment or lack of braking power.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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Retro style ride yesterday. Did not die of embarrassment or lack of braking power.
With your lack of ability to transfer power via those platform pedals, I'm not surprised.
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