SRAM Tech Specs.......

[Len J]

Here is a link to the on-line technical specs for the new SRAM road group.

http://www.sram.com/de/service/sram/tech_specs.php

Len

[Smiley]

LenJ , my plan is to have my Hors re-painted by Serotta and re-outfitted with this grouppo . I will have my Uniscasi road bike equipped with Ultegra 10 so I will be up to par with new stuff by next fall.

[Too Tall]

Where is James Earl Jones when you need him?
Looks GREAT.

[Len J]

Originally Posted by Smiley

LenJ , my plan is to have my Hors re-painted by Serotta and re-outfitted with this grouppo . I will have my Uniscasi road bike equipped with Ultegra 10 so I will be up to par with new stuff by next fall.

What kind of paint scheme?

I'm trying to decide what to do with my Ottrott.....(I will have it repained first), and stumbled acrossthe tech specs, thought I'd share.

A few interesting observations.

-will handle up to 28 tooth cog.
-FD will handle up to 15 tooth difference.

Len

[Grant McLean]

Am I the only one who has zero interest in a Sram road kit?

-g

[Wayne77]

Originally Posted by Grant McLean

Am I the only one who has zero interest in a Sram road kit?

-g

The shifters look like the DA10 shifters' red-headed step child. A knockoff of a shifter set that didn't look that great in the first place, IMO.

[Len J]

Originally Posted by Grant McLean

Am I the only one who has zero interest in a Sram road kit?

-g

that there is more competition.......I think it's good for us consumers.

Len

[sspielman]

Originally Posted by Grant McLean

Am I the only one who has zero interest in a Sram road kit?

-g

I am having trouble understanding the excitement as well. Ever the cynic, here is how I see it: SRAM started out making Gripshift....at some point they bought the Sachs bicycle component division (primarily to get the superior Sachs MTB shifter off the market). Sachs offered a couple of road gruppos, the better being "New Success". One of the first things that SRAM did after acquiring the Sachs component division was to DISCONTINUE the road gruppos. This was a sad end to several venerable old European companies that had fallen under the umbrella-Maillard and Huret. At the time, road bike sales were at a low...and MTB sales were all the rage for the bean counters. Now the situation is reversed...and SRAM has "rediscovered" road components. I am always interested in competition and components that are a bit different, but this company's roots run shallow. What I expect them to offer is a highly hyped Ultegra-quality gruppo...made in Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam or China...and they will pretend that it is a true alternative to Record or Dura Ace. It will work pretty well, but won't be particularly durable. It will find its way onto alot of production bikes because it will be cheap to produce. It's hard to get excited about a solution to a problem that doesn't exist....

[Grant McLean]

Originally Posted by Len J

that there is more competition.......I think it's good for us consumers.

Len

Yes, that's good. I only meant the comment in that i'm somewhat
surprised myself that the Sram stuff stirs no emotion in me at all.
I think their XO mtn stuff is way cool, (and I used to be a shimano
mtb diehard.) So we'll see what happens. I was fortunate to be
at interbike in the fall, and saw the Force stuff in the display.
It seemed to me at the time that it's a fairly unrevolutionary
entry into an already crowded road market. I didn't really see
what the "fuss" was all about. I think it would be interesting
to see the mainstream bike brands spec more Campagnolo, as trek,
Cannondale, and Specialized seem afraid to do so. I bet there
will be lots of Sram spec. when it's ready. ATMO.

-g

[Len J]

Originally Posted by sspielman

I am having trouble understanding the excitement as well. Ever the cynic, here is how I see it: SRAM started out making Gripshift....at some point they bought the Sachs bicycle component division (primarily to get the superior Sachs MTB shifter off the market). Sachs offered a couple of road gruppos, the better being "New Success". One of the first things that SRAM did after acquiring the Sachs component division was to DISCONTINUE the road gruppos. This was a sad end to several venerable old European companies that had fallen under the umbrella-Maillard and Huret. At the time, road bike sales were at a low...and MTB sales were all the rage for the bean counters. Now the situation is reversed...and SRAM has "rediscovered" road components. I am always interested in competition and components that are a bit different, but this company's roots run shallow. What I expect them to offer is a highly hyped Ultegra-quality gruppo...made in Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam or China...and they will pretend that it is a true alternative to Record or Dura Ace. It will work pretty well, but won't be particularly durable. It will find its way onto alot of production bikes because it will be cheap to produce. It's hard to get excited about a solution to a problem that doesn't exist....

If the market doesn't grow, then their entry will weaken either Shimano or Campy or probably both.......at a minimum, it should force both Companies to step up their game. Campy, for one, hasn't really innovated, that I can see, since 10 speed.....just more carbon. It will at least be interesting to watch.

Len

[Grant McLean]

Originally Posted by Len J

If the market doesn't grow, then their entry will weaken either Shimano or Campy or probably both.......at a minimum, it should force both Companies to step up their game. Campy, for one, hasn't really innovated, that I can see, since 10 speed.....just more carbon. It will at least be interesting to watch.

Len

I'm looking forward to seeing Campy '007. Rumors of new cranks, new brakes,
and maybe more goodies. My guess is they have been holding back
some things so these other guys won't get the spotlight to themselves
next year.

-g

[bluesea]

Originally Posted by Len J

that there is more competition.......I think it's good for us consumers.

Len

Not necessarily good. If it takes off at a slightly lower pricepoint, it will hurt Campy. They could be forced to compromise quality and/or polish and finish etc. I don't care about prices and competition; I'm for a strong Campy.

[bluesea]

Originally Posted by Grant McLean

I'm looking forward to seeing Campy '007. Rumors of new cranks, new brakes,
and maybe more goodies. My guess is they have been holding back
some things so these other guys won't get the spotlight to themselves
next year.

-g

Too much change too fast is not good--that's never been Campy's way.

[mike p]

Originally Posted by Grant McLean

Yes, that's good. I only meant the comment in that i'm somewhat
surprised myself that the Sram stuff stirs no emotion in me at all.
I think their XO mtn stuff is way cool, (and I used to be a shimano
mtb diehard.) So we'll see what happens. I was fortunate to be
at interbike in the fall, and saw the Force stuff in the display.
It seemed to me at the time that it's a fairly unrevolutionary
entry into an already crowded road market. I didn't really see
what the "fuss" was all about. I think it would be interesting
to see the mainstream bike brands spec more Campagnolo, as trek,
Cannondale, and Specialized seem afraid to do so. I bet there
will be lots of Sram spec. when it's ready. ATMO.

-g

'entry into an already crowded road market'

WTH - shimano and campy! thats crowded!

Mike

[mike p]

Originally Posted by bluesea

Not necessarily good. If it takes off at a slightly lower pricepoint, it will hurt Campy. They could be forced to compromise quality and/or polish and finish etc. I don't care about prices and competition; I'm for a strong Campy.

This is a joke right?

Mike