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Old 08-05-2013, 02:12 PM
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I wonder if baseball fans will develop the same skepticism (or maybe cynicism is the right word) regarding outstanding performances that cycling fans display.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:13 PM
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his 1 year salary is probably more than the entire professional cycling peloton.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:18 PM
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the 10%

enabling the 10%.

The monopoly of baseball.
The fabulously rich owners.
The monopoly of the media.
The fabulously rich players.
and you...in this case us.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:20 PM
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He recently sold his Miami Beach house for $30 million. I think he'll somehow manage even without his salary from this year and next.

I haven't watched a baseball game in years. I lost my interest long ago.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:41 PM
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I wonder if baseball fans will develop the same skepticism (or maybe cynicism is the right word) regarding outstanding performances that cycling fans display.
People are reluctant to believe that Chris Davis from the Orioles is playing clean. He was questioned right before the HR Derby in this video.
Reality is that it's in the same place as cycling. You don't know if you're watching greatness or a new drug.
Pretty sorry state of affairs.

Per A-Rod, it couldn't happen to a more fitting guy. I hope this crushes him in every way imaginable.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:41 PM
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when it 1st came out, his multi-year contract was a positively staggering sum. (and it still is, not to diminish it.) and i mean a s-t-a-g-g-e-r-i-n-g sum. something like $150mm. yeah the agent gets his cut, and uncle sammy gets his cut, but fer cryin' out loud....

at what point does the madness stop?

as a result of that and other payroll costs, a day in the new ballpark is like $300/per person for decent seats plus a beer or two and a dog.

umm, pass.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:42 PM
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I wonder if baseball fans will develop the same skepticism (or maybe cynicism is the right word) regarding outstanding performances that cycling fans display.
I hope so. The scary part is that "Biogenesis" was only one of what I think are many so called "clinics" that have no qualified individuals consulting and providing players with steroids. It's sad that Tony Bosch's associate only came forward after he wasn't paid. I'm also interested in the list of clients' names that happened to be on those documents that were "destroyed". How lucky for those whose names were on that list.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:48 PM
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He can appeal. He can play until his appeal is decided by an arbitrator. I'm not a fan of A-Rod , but in this case he is the underdog. So I root for his lawyers to beat the rap or at least get it reduced to 50 games.

As Chris Rock so fabulously pointed out in his stand up routine a few years ago about NBA players- the players are rich, the owners are WEALTHY.

I think the whole USADA is a joke and it should all be legalized to get rid of the hypocrisy and level the field.
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Old 08-05-2013, 02:58 PM
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enabling the 10%.

The monopoly of baseball.
The fabulously rich owners.
The monopoly of the media.
The fabulously rich players.
and you...in this case us.
You forgot the player's union who enable the madness, drugs and money both.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:02 PM
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As Tygert pointed out at a doping panel discussion thing baseball is not an Olympic sport. It falls under the same category as the WWE (a sport he specifically mentioned). The important part would be the serious doping tests required of an Olympic sport.

Really, then, it's okay to do whatever they want in baseball, just like in the WWE.

Cycling, because it's an Olympic sport, has to play by slightly different rules. At least on paper.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:30 PM
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the only thing that sucks more than dopers is baseball.

gad, what a dreary, uninteresting sport.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:35 PM
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enabling the 10%.

The monopoly of baseball.
The fabulously rich owners.
The monopoly of the media.
The fabulously rich players.
and you...in this case us.
Not sure what this has go do with anything Matt said.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:41 PM
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People are reluctant to believe that Chris Davis from the Orioles is playing clean. He was questioned right before the HR Derby in this video.
Reality is that it's in the same place as cycling. You don't know if you're watching greatness or a new drug.
Pretty sorry state of affairs.
Orioles fan here. The thing with Davis is, he hasn't been nearly this productive before this season, which does not help his case. This year, out of nowhere, his numbers have been unbelievable.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:44 PM
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Good. It's about time the baseball powers that be pretended to get serious about drugs in the league.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:45 PM
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the only thing that sucks more than dopers is baseball.

gad, what a dreary, uninteresting sport.
To each his own. I love baseball, don't hate drugs and am happy to see the two together on occasion.

I don't care for liars, however. I'm hopeful the players themselves will get fed up enough with an unlevel playing field that they impose measures to considerably curb steroid use in the league (i.e. ostracizing known users, contract language, two strikes (or one) and you're out policy, etc).

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