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Old 04-02-2013, 03:25 PM
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I know about williams and neuvation wheels are there any other similar companies?
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:28 PM
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I know about williams and neuvation wheels are there any other similar companies?
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Some Forte wheels at Performance look a heck of a lot like Neuvation wheels to me. (At least some have in the past.)
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:55 PM
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I know about williams and neuvation wheels are there any other similar companies?
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:59 PM
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List of wheels to avoid?
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:45 PM
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List of wheels to avoid?

Zipp comes to mind.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:48 PM
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Hermes Sport, and Hawk Racing comes to mind.

No personal experience on either, but know friends who have used the former. Seen the latter stocked at a store.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:43 PM
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whats the weight?
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:11 AM
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:23 AM
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I don't think so. Each of these companies have loyal owners. I have several sets of Neuvations and have found them to be reasonably light, tough, nice riding wheels at a good price point, especially when on sale. Great customer service, too.
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whats the weight?
All different
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:34 AM
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List of wheels to avoid?
Do you have verifiable bad info for any of them?

Only ones I can offer any feedback on are the Neuvations. I have two friends who have them and both had the same issues with hubs/spokes. The company DOES have great customer service and the prices are a bargain, but are you willing to deal with the downtime if you do have a problem? That seems to be the central question with them. My friend's experiences also echo these same issues I've seen anecdotally on the web numerous times.

I'm currently looking at some ZIPP 404 Firecrest but they are indeed VERY pricey. The Boyd 60mm clinchers in particular look to be a bargain at $1450 for deep dish carbon compared to the ZIPP's at $2700 (and also offer some nice low key "ghosted" decals) and make me wonder exactly what I'm getting with the ZIPP's for my extra $1300? Better heat resistance? Better aerodynamics?

Both look to be wide profile rims--23-23.5mm. Are there differences that are really going to do me any good if I don't race? I could buy a heck of a lot of other stuff for that $1300.

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:40 AM
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The only ones I have any feedback for are the Boyd's. We have a sponsorship through them and the wheels have been bombproof. Customer service has been stellar
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:43 AM
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Revolution Wheelworks (http://www.revolutionwheelworks.com/) - hubs/rims are sourced in Asia (same hubs/rims as most of the companies listed above). Spokes are Sapim all are handbuilt right outside of philadelphia.

Handbuilt, laced and tensioned here in the US of A.

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:53 AM
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My Neuvation experience: mixed. My background: 175 lb. masters racer, tend to be very gentle on equipment. I had a set of R28 Aero 3 wheels that I used primarily for racing. The front wheel was problem-free over three seasons. The rear wheel developed a creaking noise at the end of season 1 and was replaced under warranty. Once it was replaced, it didn't creak, but went out of true often. I eventually sold them to a much lighter person who hasn't had any complaints to date.

I also had a set of the M28 Aero wheels that I liked very much (at first). They were used for training / recreational riding and were reliable and stayed true. After about 3,500 miles, I noticed that all the rear spoke holes were cracking out. Since they were out of warranty by then, it would have cost ~$60 plus shipping to have Neuvation replace the rim. I decided it wasn't worth the $$ since all I would have in the end was a used wheel I didn't trust.

Per many of the recommendations I have seen on this forum, I have ended my experiment with low-cost, factory-built wheels. All my bikes now have hand-built (by me) wheels with Shimano hubs and reputable rims. A few more dollars for the initial investment, but reliable and more cost-effective over time.

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:54 AM
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Are there differences that are really going to do me any good if I don't race?
Are carbon tubulars going to do anything at all for you, if you don't race (cat 2 or higher)? I have alloy tubulars on most of my bikes. As near as I can tell, the skinnier guys drop me, and I drop the heavier guys. Wheels don't make much difference on the Sunday group ride.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:57 AM
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Try Neuvation

Good Luck

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