Pub Carbon Fiber wheels ~$250 www.the-house.com

[charliedid]

I'm no expert wheel builder but they both appear to be a combo of 2 and 3 cross and different length spokes. Maybe it's the silver and black mix but they look all wrong from here. Happy to be corrected

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by old fat man

I think the valve stem hole is not aligned in the right spot. Purely aesthetic but also an indicator of the builder's experience/attention to detail. One of my first wheels was laced like that. Many years later it's still problem free

The valve hole is between parallel spokes on both wheels, which is the traditional way to do it.

Originally Posted by charliedid

I'm no expert wheel builder but they both appear to be a combo of 2 and 3 cross and different length spokes. Maybe it's the silver and black mix but they look all wrong from here. Happy to be corrected

By my eye, the rear is 32 spokes 3x on both sides, while the front is 28 spokes 2x both sides, which is pretty standard.

What can't be seen in the photo is the gauge/thickness of the spokes. It's generally not recommended to mix spokes of wildly different gauges (such as mixing straight 2.0mm spokes with DT Revolution 1.5mm spokes).

[weisan]

Originally Posted by fmradio516

I thought that rear triangle was completely crooked like it was T-boned by a car doing 40mph. Damn optical illusions.

haha...I think the messy cables all over the place did not help with the optical clarity. Sorry, not drilled for internals.

Originally Posted by fmradio516

The amazing part is the "spokes are whatever I can find in my box" part

You think I am kiddin'??

Here's my "box"...filled with the spokes that I brought home from the coop over the years. Some of the same length...some maybe not.

[weisan]

Originally Posted by charliedid

You should ask for a refund

Sorry charlie pal, I called the shop owner/mechanic/wheelbuilder earlier. He was quite impatient with me on the phone, apparently he was out enjoying himself on the bike. I don't blame him, the rain had stopped and it was glorious outside this morning.



Before he hung up, he said there's no warranty on those wheels, no refund either, basically I am stuck with these POS. I am really pissed!

I need to warn my pals here on paceline to avoid this shop at all costs...

If you happen to pass by this LBS "WeiSanGarage_ClampTopTubeRepairStand_SqueezedChai nstaysforTireClearance_HomeMadeDiscBrakeTab_WrongL acedWheels@LeanderTX"....

Don't go in! Not even if's life and death.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by weisan

Sorry charlie pal, I called the shop owner/mechanic/wheelbuilder earlier. He was quite impatient with me on the phone, apparently he was out enjoying himself on the bike. I don't blame him, the rain had stopped and it was glorious outside this morning.



Before he hung up, he said there's no warranty on those wheels, no refund either, basically I am stuck with these POS. I am really pissed!

I need to warn my pals here on paceline to avoid this shop at all costs...

If you happen to pass by this LBS "WeiSanGarage_ClampTopTubeRepairStand_SqueezedChai nstaysforTireClearance_HomeMadeDiscBrakeTab_WrongL acedWheels@LeanderTX"....

Don't go in! Not even if's life and death.

LOL you're the best😀

[weisan]

Originally Posted by charliedid

LOL you're the best😀

Oh no, I am not...and as if there's not enough evidence pointing the other direction, i just got back "testing" the wheels after filling them up with sealant. The front wheel was making a weird whizzing sound. I got back home, checked it, couldn't find anything wrong (other than the lacing) , then it suddenly dawned on me, I was putting a 12mm TA through a 15mm hub and riding around like a boss...whistling and singing, completely oblivion to the danger I am putting myself in.

[charliedid]

Details schmeetails it's all about the journey

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with the lacing. It looks like bog-standard 28 spoke 2 cross.

Gap, parallel spokes, at valve hole with crossed spokes opposite looks to be 3 'spaces' over...

I got back home, checked it, couldn't find anything wrong (other than the lacing)

Does it make a difference in 'wheel performance' if the wheel is true, round, tensioned properly and even? Nope but it would drive me nuts..altho my lacing 'method' that I have used for 33 years would prevent that.

[mtgtopdeck]

Sharing some builds I made with these rims! Have a look.

Rim Rear PUB 275 PC 34 AM AS 32
Rim Front PUB 29 PC 29 AM 32
Hubs Qincycle Open Model Star Ratchet MTB Disc
Spokes Phil Wood 14/15/14 J-bend Black
Nipples DT Swiss Squorx Brass Black
Sapim HM Nipple Washers








Rims PUB PC 700D 50 AS 28
Hub Rear DT Swiss 350 CL
Hub Front DT Swiss 180 CL
Spokes Phil Wood 14/15/14 J-bend Black
Nipples DT Brass Black
Sapim HM Nipple Washers









Rims PUB 275 PC 34 XC AS 28 (access holes are drilled off-center)
Hubs DT Swiss 350
Spokes Phil Wood 14/15/14 J-bend Silver
Nipples DT Swiss Squorx Pro Lock Brass Black
Sapim HM Nipple Washers








Rims PUB PC 700R 45 24
Hubs Novatec 24h
Spokes Phil Wood 14/15/14 J-bend Black
Nipples Phil Wood Brass Black
Sapim HM Nipple Washers

[Pegoready]

Damn player. Those look great!

[truth]

Why'd you go with washers?

[fmradio516]

what is that vertical caliper thingamajiggy?

[mtgtopdeck]

Originally Posted by fmradio516

what is that vertical caliper thingamajiggy?

That is a Digital Height Gauge. It makes measuring Flange offset so simple and precise.
Measure OLD, divide by two. set height gauge at 1/2 OLD. Zero the gauge.
Move right flange, note offset. Move to left flange, note offset. done!

Originally Posted by truth

Why'd you go with washers?

I always go with washers on carbon rims for several reasons.
distributes the pressure load of the nipple seat to a greater surface.
Ease of nipple turning. Metal-grease-metal is easier than Metal-Carbon.
enhanced nipple exit angle. the concave washer acts as a pivot point to allow the nipple to better align with the spoke entry angle.

Originally Posted by Pegoready

Damn player. Those look great!

Thanks! <3

[dddd]

Nice apparatii!

I'll second the use of washers (and lube) to make turning the nipples much easier, some of these carbon rims effect quite a troublesome grip at the nipple seats and one might struggle to achieve even 100kg.

[dvancleve]

Originally Posted by mtgtopdeck

Sharing some builds I made with these rims! Have a look.

Rims PUB PC 700R 45 24
Hubs Novatec 24h
Spokes Phil Wood 14/15/14 J-bend Black
Nipples Phil Wood Brass Black
Sapim HM Nipple Washers

Man, you sure have the shop setup! It looks like you did the front on that last set radial heads in? I’ve done a wheel that way as well (with that same hub!), should be stronger if a teensy bit less aero, but I hardly ever see it. Why did you choose it?

Thanks, Doug