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Killer cyclist in court...
OK, that was a tabloid headline, but the NYT story is here:
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It is sort of amusing at first glance, but there are any number of reasons why it could have been necessary or prudent to make the kid a party to the case. Especially where someone died.
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Just kids playing and she was very old anyway... wonder whether you could say that if she was your mother regardless of how old... but what would be just thing to do.
Guess you could punish the mothers for letting their kids play on the sidewalk... by way of making the 4 yr olds guilty....? But then some kids are exceptionally wild and reckless....
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If you want to follow a strictly legal arguement, she was negligent for being there in her frail condition. Tough case.
Is it illegal to ride on the sidewalk there?
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This makes sense:
In legal papers, Mr. Tyrie added, “Courts have held that an infant under the age of 4 is conclusively presumed to be incapable of negligence.” Then On Oct. 1, he rejected a motion to dismiss the case because of Juliet’s age, noting that she was three months shy of turning 5 when Ms. Menagh was struck, and thus old enough to be sued. This is, of course, reasonable because we all know that a child just shy of turning five is way more responsible than one who is just barely four. At least the 4 yo wasn't texting or should would be in BIG time trouble. It seems to be a waste of time to sue the 4 yo since the 4 yo has no resources...what is the point? |
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Accidents happen. It's too bad. This is a clear case of the USA gone sue crazy. This is totally nuts. they should obviously have been playing in the streets with cars...
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Oh shut up about our over-litigous society . . . blah blah blah.
I feel sorry for the old broad that died. The kid's families should be held responsible, at least for the medical bills - which I bet are gonna be substantial for a broken hip at her age. The kids families lived on E52nd st. - fer crissakes, why couldn't they have taken the kids to Central Park if they were going to ride so fast on the sidewalk ? Last I heard sidewalks were for walking, although I know that there are lots of things that go on besides that. I don't think that parents are THAT stupid wrt how wound-up their kids are when they start acting wild. |
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4 year olds should be riding their bikes (note: "with" training wheels....) on the street???? I think the parents can take their kids where ever they want to. Everybody wants to sue somebody
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Training wheels
This sounds like a total freak accident. I used to play baseball in
a city park surrounded by really old folks sitting on park benches. Its a miracle we never hit one of those elders. The parents should have paid the bill end of story. But what is weird why did this case take so long to come to trial. Couldn't they have settled out of court? I think its interesting that there is a law that does allow children under 12 to ride on the sidewalks there. Most folks in that part of town are very hostile to any kind of bicycle riding. City councilman Peter King tried to pass a law to make riding a sidewalk in NYC illegal. Last edited by drewski; 10-30-2010 at 02:43 PM. |
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New York City is albout warring tribes; bikes versus cars, pedestrians versus bikes, doddering old folks versus anybody. The estate of the old lady (who died of causes unrelated to the accident, as I read) is suing because the parents were negligent in supervising their spawn; I don't think either kid will be any better or worse off by being excluded or included as defendants. |
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(Not that I think that suing little kids is a solution, but I'm not so sure the incident was not related to her death.) |
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Does anyone read the whole article anymore:
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If she died due to lightning strike while out on a picnic, then yes, I agree, it was unrelated, but if it was due to pneumonia and complications thereof, then chances are it was related. At this point without details I don't think we know for sure. |
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Dumb place to raise kids, if you ask me.
Its not a bad place to grow up as long as you have street smarts.
As least the kids don't have to drive everywhere due to the ubiquity of subways. Plus if you want to get away there are great places to visit in every direction. Some of the best values to be had in education are available in NYC. As long as the kids are able to pass the entrance exams. Quote:
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