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Old 09-27-2004, 09:05 AM
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close encounter with a tour bus

it's leaf-beeper season already in new england. the season i dread. because we get legions of tour buses clogging our roads.

yesterday, i meet my first tour bus of the season, literally.

i was riding through a traffic circle. i had the right of way. a tour bus was entering the traffic circle. there was a huge, clear "yield" sign on his road. he looked me straight in the eye and drove right through the yield sign. he used the "gross vehicle weight" line of reasoning on me. i was already committed to the traffic circle. he kept coming. i moved left, toward the inside of the circle. he moved left. i moved left as far as i could. he moved farther left. i reached out and pounded on the bus side, it was close enuf to touch. he moved farther left. i now had a choice. hit a bus or hit a granite curb. the last thought that flashed through my head as i braked, relaxed and laid it down over the granite curb was...oh, no, not on this paint job.

to tell you how sick i am, after i stopped bouncing, the first thought i had wasn't am i ok, it was "is the frame ok?" i was on my pearl white CSi and i heard some metal/granite interfacing going on as i fell. luckily (?) my left shoulder, hip and knee took the bulk of the impact. but the left seatstay did get whacked pretty well by the granite. luckily, too, i'm just scraped up as well. that relaxing as you fall trick really does work, even on granite.

in a testiment to the strength of steel and the build quality of a serotta, the seatstay is straight and true, just scraped pretty well, in one spot down to the steel. thank you, kelly, for build such a stout frame. any tips, anybody, for touching up the paint on a steel frame?

as a final aside, the rest of the ride, i did look at all the dead roadkill critters with a very empathetic eye. we're all one screwed up bus driver away from being roadkill ourselves. the gross vehicle weight argument is powerful but damn unfair.
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:13 AM
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climb, I am glad you are alright.

Your story reminds me of a classic chinese fable I grew up listening to...it's about a cricket trying to stop a wooden cart from proceeding down the road that he frequently crosses over to the other side.... Well, guess who win in the end?

I know it's an unfair match but the end result is just the same.
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:20 AM
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Climbo?! Is the Merckx SC OK?!?!?!?? Ok, good....whew....<burp>
Oh, and are you ready to sell it?? I hear the top tubes on those thigs are really flexy...
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:22 AM
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Sorry to hear about the encounter Climb. I find the most dangerous and offensive (read opposite of defensive) drivers out there are school bus, metro bus, and dump truck drives. YIKES!! They will pull out IN to you on your bike! I have had bus drivers see me, just as you described with direct eye contact, pull out into me as I collided with the side of the front of the bus, next to the driver, me pounding on the side and screaming - and I have confronted them at the next light asking, "Do you have a vision problem, did you not see me?!" Reply, "Oh yeah, Oh, I saaaw YOU."
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:27 AM
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bus drivers are, without a doubt, the worst. they're bullies. by comparison, 18-wheelers are choirboys.
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:50 AM
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Good gravy boy. Good thing you bounce well. Glad all your bits are OK. Quit fighting buses!!! Try VW's or sumthin.
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:58 AM
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Hey Climb,
Sorry to hear about your close encounter with a BusBully. Glad your ok! I can empathize; Ive had my share of run-ins with Tri-met bus drivers back in Portland. They rank up there with the spitting, bottle throwing rednecks. :argue:


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Old 09-27-2004, 10:09 AM
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Climb;

Glad to hear you are OK.

Did you manage to get the name of the bus company?

Do you carry a cell phone? I have heard the Concord Police are fairly pro-active and sympathetic to cyclist/car issues.

I guess this means we should think about a North SHore ride versus a western 'burbs ride.

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Old 09-27-2004, 10:29 AM
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The bike can be repainted.......

Glad you're around to tell the story.

Any ID on the Bus?

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Old 09-27-2004, 11:57 AM
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only thing i remember about the bus was that it was white, big and metal.
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:17 PM
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Here's an idea

The comedian Gallagher had a great soultion for this type of encounter. Everybody is given a little rubber stick em dart gun like you got when you were 5 years old. Whenever someone does something stupid (prime example being your encounter with the bus driver), you shoot them in the bumper with your dart gun. The dart has a little flag that says "stupid" on it. When an officer pulls behind a vehicle with about a dozen of these on the back, he pulls them over and gives them a ticket for being a FA !!!!!

Glad to hear your OK. I can't stand some drivers. I love the ones who blow their horn about 5 feet behind you. I think it is intended to say "Move over or I'm gonna hit ya - you've been warned". Fact is, we would move over if it wasn't for all the beer cans, mufflers, broken bottles, etc that you motorists put on the road in the first place.

I'm surprised someone on the bus didn't see you go down. I would have loved to been on that bus. I would have jumped up and started screaming, STOP !!! I think you killed him, STOP !!!! Can you just see all the blue hair leafies going crazy when you start screaming that on a tour bus.

Your story is the exact reason I seek out routes that are off the beaten path. Some of the places I ride have people coming out of the house saying "Look mom - It's one of them there 2 wheeled self propelled thingies."
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:48 PM
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Yes, bus drivers can be bullies. A few months ago I was squeezed between a bus and a line of parked cars. It could have been really ugly. I pounded on the side of the bus too but I don't think he cared, or heard it. I know he saw me, he just did not want to budge an inch to go around me. He wanted to teach me a lesson as so many drivers do now days. In my surprise, fear and rage I failed to get the number of the bus. Dang it.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:50 PM
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Glad you are ok.

Hope that bastard has a heart attack from his lack of exercise. It will make the roads safer for all of us.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:20 PM
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Man I hate that sort of thing. I'm glad you're basically ok.

Geeze, it seems that all sorts of folks who would never threaten anybody with a gun feel free to threaten and muscle you with their vehicles.

As for touch up: between layers go fine and go wet, use good light and take your time.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:35 PM
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djg;

Climb's CSI is a pearlescent white that is beautiful to behold. I believe he posted pictures in the recent past.

I don't think he'll be doing the touch-up himself except as a way to prevent rusting of the steel. I think this will have to be re-painted at the factory or by some other pro.

Climb, I hate to ask but, was this an Owner's Club bike? The crash protection will go a long way to restoring it's beauty if it was.

Again, glad to hear you are okay.

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