Anyone ridden on 2015 Chorus or Record?

[buckfifty]

Hi, was wondering if anyone has these groups and can comment on them? How is the front shifting compared to the 6800 or 9000? Thanks

[AngryScientist]

Hey there. see my discussion here:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showth...highlight=2015

speaking to front shifting, i believe it is right at the same level as DA9000. the new FD seems to help a bit, and the chainrings shift really smoothly.

[CNY rider]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Hey there. see my discussion here:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showth...highlight=2015

speaking to front shifting, i believe it is right at the same level as DA9000. the new FD seems to help a bit, and the chainrings shift really smoothly.

Excellent! Just received mine but can't decide which bike is going to be the lucky winner.......

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by buckfifty

Hi, was wondering if anyone has these groups and can comment on them? How is the front shifting compared to the 6800 or 9000? Thanks

Chorus/Record/SuperRecord more better, of course.

[buckfifty]

Is there a difference between chorus and record besides materials, weight, logos? Is it worth it to go record over chorus? Thanks!

[Black Dog]

Originally Posted by buckfifty

Is there a difference between chorus and record besides materials, weight, logos? Is it worth it to go record over chorus? Thanks!

There is zero functional difference or difference in durability. It is weight and bling.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by buckfifty

Is there a difference between chorus and record besides materials, weight, logos? Is it worth it to go record over chorus? Thanks!

No and no, IMHO

[tristan]

Originally Posted by Black Dog

There is zero functional difference or difference in durability. It is weight and bling.

That's not quite true with 2015.

The Chorus brakes aren't as nice as the Record / SR version. Record and SR have the option of a single-pivot rear brake (a bit more modulation - my personal preference) and both use ball bearings in the main pivot which seems to stay smoother for longer. Chorus is a dual-pivot rear brake with bushings.

2015 Chorus has a horrible barrel adjuster on the brakes. Both the barrel adjuster and it's locknut are threaded and it's nearly impossible to make adjustments as you ride. Record and SR use the older style system where you can adjust the brake by turning just the locknut. This might not be an issue for some people but if you like to fiddle or if you plan on getting neutral-support wheels then it could be an issue.

Tyre clearance with the 2015 brake is much better - on one fork with a 2014 brake a 25mm tyre rubbed the brake while climbing but the 2015 calliper clears 28s on the same rim.

[Black Dog]

Originally Posted by tristan

That's not quite true with 2015.

The Chorus brakes aren't as nice as the Record / SR version. Record and SR have the option of a single-pivot rear brake (a bit more modulation - my personal preference) and both use ball bearings in the main pivot which seems to stay smoother for longer. Chorus is a dual-pivot rear brake with bushings.

2015 Chorus has a horrible barrel adjuster on the brakes. Both the barrel adjuster and it's locknut are threaded and it's nearly impossible to make adjustments as you ride. Record and SR use the older style system where you can adjust the brake by turning just the locknut. This might not be an issue for some people but if you like to fiddle or if you plan on getting neutral-support wheels then it could be an issue.

Tyre clearance with the 2015 brake is much better - on one fork with a 2014 brake a 25mm tyre rubbed the brake while climbing but the 2015 calliper clears 28s on the same rim.

I was thinking more along the lines of shifting performance. Bushing vs bearings in the brakes does not really have an appreciable effect on braking itself but one may wear better than the other. It is nice that they have addressed tire clearance at last.

Single pivot rear is available at the chorus level.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by tristan

That's not quite true with 2015.

The Chorus brakes aren't as nice as the Record / SR version. Record and SR have the option of a single-pivot rear brake (a bit more modulation - my personal preference) and both use ball bearings in the main pivot which seems to stay smoother for longer. Chorus is a dual-pivot rear brake with bushings.

2015 Chorus has a horrible barrel adjuster on the brakes. Both the barrel adjuster and it's locknut are threaded and it's nearly impossible to make adjustments as you ride. Record and SR use the older style system where you can adjust the brake by turning just the locknut. This might not be an issue for some people but if you like to fiddle or if you plan on getting neutral-support wheels then it could be an issue.

Tyre clearance with the 2015 brake is much better - on one fork with a 2014 brake a 25mm tyre rubbed the brake while climbing but the 2015 calliper clears 28s on the same rim.

pretty sure chorus also has an option of dual front/single back pivot or dual/dual pivot.

[tristan]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

pretty sure chorus also has an option of dual front/single back pivot or dual/dual pivot.

Both the printed catalogue and the website indicate that Chorus is dual pivot rear only for 2015.

[Black Dog]

Are the new hoods compatible with the older 11speed ergos?

[Black Dog]

Originally Posted by tristan

Both the printed catalogue and the website indicate that Chorus is dual pivot rear only for 2015.

I pulled that pic from the campy web site.

And they say this:

The compounds used yield superior braking performance and the lightened pad holders make pad replacement fast and easy. But that's not all. Campagnolo® offers two options: alongside the classic front/rear brake differentiation for maximum lightness and braking modulation, there is also a dual pivot option available for the rear brake, for even more decisive and powerful braking. The choice is yours!

[tristan]

Originally Posted by Black Dog

Are the new hoods compatible with the older 11speed ergos?

No. The 2015 shifters have a slight bump on the outside of the body.

[zmudshark]

Does anyone know if all the Chorus parts are now made in Romania? What about Record?