Seeking advice about Sachs bike on eBay

SlackMan · #1 08-13-2014, 05:53 PM

For the bike at the link below, does anyone know whether it is likely to fit 700x28s? The seller said he thought they would fit, but it sounded like he hasn't actually tried them. Also, any idea on what final value would to guide me if I were to decide to bid? Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Richard-Sach...:X:RTQ:US:1123

Aaron O · #2 08-13-2014, 05:59 PM

I'd shoot an email to e-Richie...he's a helpful chap. My older Sachs will, and I don't THINK his clearances have changed that much...but I wouldn't take this as a definitive answer.

Tires also rarely run totally to size. Which specific tires?

firerescuefin · #3 08-13-2014, 05:59 PM

Ask Richard...he's on here all the time...He'll probably respond to this thread.

SlackMan · #4 08-13-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron O

I'd shoot an email to e-Richie...he's a helpful chap. My older Sachs will, and I don't THINK his clearances have changed that much...but I wouldn't take this as a definitive answer.

Tires also rarely run totally to size. Which specific tires?

I'd like to shoot for a true 28 like a Roly Poly. I ride Conti 4-seasons now that measure about 26 or so instead of 28.

Aaron O · #5 08-13-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SlackMan

I'd like to shoot for a true 28 like a Roly Poly. I ride Conti 4-seasons now that measure about 26 or so instead of 28.

Yeah - exactly. I usually run contis too...so my opinion on what fits a 28c is a bit skewed. I THINK my Sachs would fit a roly poly, but it would be tight.

Lionel · #6 08-13-2014, 06:36 PM

depends on which 28 as they are all different sizes in real life. Other potential issue is the record brakes as they have less clearance than shimano.

On my Sachs (with record brakes), 28 ultremo clinchers fit and 27 FMB tubulars do not but would with a different front brake.

Aaron O · #7 08-13-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lionel

depends on which 28 as they are all different sizes in real life. Other potential issue is the record brakes as they have less clearance than shimano.

On my Sachs (with record brakes), 28 ultremo clinchers fit and 27 FMB tubulars do not but would with a different front brake.

I bought a set of those as well (the 27 FMBs). They really do run wide.

jr59 · #8 08-13-2014, 06:42 PM

Mines newer than the one posted, I think. Anyway, I have a pego-richie tubed one and mine fits 4 season con tis with room to spare, with chorus brakes

Cat3roadracer · #9 08-13-2014, 06:49 PM

That sure is nice.

Peter P. · #10 08-13-2014, 06:51 PM

For that bike, the brake pads are at mid-slot. Fitting a 28mm tire with comfortable room to spare is doubtful. "Iffy" room, one can only speculate.

If that's a priority to you, I'd pass on it. Find a builder who will build with the brake pads at the bottom of the slot using short reach calipers where you'll be assured to fit a real 28mm tire. My Soulcraft was built that way.

I think the frame and the bike in general are in spectacular condition and if I were bidding I'd be tempted to go as high as $5k. For paying such a "premium" you avoid the long lead times of custom frames and get a ready to roll product. Unless you need some unusual geometry, this would be worth at least one bid.

SlackMan · #11 08-14-2014, 07:29 AM

Thanks, Peter. I think it's probably smart to pass on this one.

Lionel · #12 08-14-2014, 07:38 AM

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Thanks, Peter. I think it's probably smart to pass on this one.

if it fits you and given the shape it's in I would definitely go for it. These type of occasions are rare.

Aaron O · #13 08-14-2014, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lionel

if it fits you and given the shape it's in I would definitely go for it. These type of occasions are rare.

+1 - and you might be able to find a brake that gives you more room. I've had good luck with Tektros. Heck - it would look funny, but you could toss on center pulls.

ergott · #14 08-14-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lionel

On my Sachs (with record brakes), 28 ultremo clinchers fit and 27 FMB tubulars do not but would with a different front brake.

Funny, I have 28s under my Record brakes no problem. I even had Ultremo 28 clinchers with wide rims under there. Those measured even bigger.

Aaron O · #15 08-14-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ergott

Funny, I have 28s under my Record brakes no problem. I even had Ultremo 28 clinchers with wide rims under there. Those measured even bigger.

The 27 fmb tubulars run wider than any 28c I've seen. I doubt it would fit my record brake.