Campagnolo EPS Streamlined Battery - NEW

RedRider · #1 08-26-2013, 10:10 AM

This was expected but just "officially" announced. No word yet on if it can be retro fitted for those with the EPS brain.
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/produ...k#.Uhtk3JJJMfU

Joachim · #2 08-26-2013, 10:14 AM

Will be interesting to see how custom builders deal with the 27.0mm wide battery (at its widest point) on frames which require a 27.2mm seatpost (when running the battery internal).

cfox · #3 08-26-2013, 10:16 AM

It's an improvement, but a big fail in that if it's internally mounted, it either needs a dedicated charging port/hole in the frame or it needs to be removed. The Di2 9000 internal battery can be re-charged via the junction box, which is pretty slick.

eBAUMANN · #4 08-26-2013, 10:24 AM

how, in the hell, are they gonna get that battery into the downtube?!

seatpost, sure, i get it...downtube though...

pdmtong · #5 08-26-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cfox

It's an improvement, but a big fail in that if it's internally mounted, it either needs a dedicated charging port/hole in the frame or it needs to be removed. The Di2 9000 internal battery can be re-charged via the junction box, which is pretty slick.

I couldn't agree more The frame will need dedicated charge port on the down tube. I'm sure carbon builders will accommodate and supply a plug but for others it's a no go. I bet moots won't drill the down tube on the rsl - too thin

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Originally Posted by eBAUMANN

how, in the hell, are they gonna get that battery into the downtube?!

I saw a carbon frame with a removeable opening at the lbs. forgot the mfg Big fat down tube

cfox · #6 08-26-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eBAUMANN

how, in the hell, are they gonna get that battery into the downtube?!

seatpost, sure, i get it...downtube though...

yeah, despite the graphic in the press release, I don't think too many of these will be living in downtubes. Seatpost or seat tube is the spot for these. I would think they'd have to built into the frame in order to be in the downtube, which would be a horrible idea (unit goes bad, frame is shot).

oldpotatoe · #7 08-26-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRider

This was expected but just "officially" announced. No word yet on if it can be retro fitted for those with the EPS brain.
http://www.bicycleretailer.com/produ...k#.Uhtk3JJJMfU

It can but ya need a new interface and charger.

SR/Record and Athena cuz different wires

oldpotatoe · #8 08-26-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cfox

It's an improvement, but a big fail in that if it's internally mounted, it either needs a dedicated charging port/hole in the frame or it needs to be removed. The Di2 9000 internal battery can be re-charged via the junction box, which is pretty slick.

Big fail?..yikes..yep, gotta have an extra hole and frame makers like Moots have already made one....no bigger than a bottle mount brazeon.

Di2 recharged via a USB port, bring yer laptop! And I 'think' ya gotta buy the shimano software.

As for downtube..really not that big of a deal with PFBB30...

If yer that sweated up about it, mount next to bottle cage like a wee pump.

Bet about Moots? Bet you would be wrong..That tube really isn't that thin and 'some' frame makers don't get nervous and jerky about this sort of thing. Do you see bottle bosses on the RSL downtube? I do....

pdmtong · #9 08-26-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Do you see bottle bosses on the RSL downtube? I do....

touche' ! it's new...easy enough to wait and see what how it gets handled.

jpw · #10 08-26-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

And I 'think' ya gotta buy the shimano software.

that would be so mean. how not to treat a customer.

ergott · #11 08-26-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

As for downtube..really not that big of a deal with PFBB30...

Never played with PFBB30. That hole is big enough to pass that battery in and out? Seems like the battery is too long, but I have no scale for reference.

I knew I made the right choice in groups this spring with mechanical SR. Electric is being updated every year with minor improvements. I'll wait until production cycles slow down. Mechanical Campagnolo is pretty stable and has been for several years.

nicrump · #12 08-26-2013, 11:42 AM

The 46mm bore in a PF30 shell is only part of the equation. the opening to the DT is the bigger part. Modern molded bike with those massively larger bb ODs and DTs will be easy. A 46mm bore x 52mm OD tube to tube(or any metal bike for that mater) will be a different story. I'll be looking to stuff these in the seat tube.

nicrump · #13 08-26-2013, 11:45 AM

Don't kid yourself Eric, mechanical is not 'all that' or without fault. i just had to replace a rear der cable on a customer bike after only 4 years of service. ;-) She probably should of just gotten a new bike as I am sure the new cable is only good for another 4 years.

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Originally Posted by ergott

Never played with PFBB30. That hole is big enough to pass that battery in and out? Seems like the battery is too long, but I have no scale for reference.

I knew I made the right choice in groups this spring with mechanical SR. Electric is being updated every year with minor improvements. I'll wait until production cycles slow down. Mechanical Campagnolo is pretty stable and has been for several years.

pdmtong · #14 08-26-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ergott

Never played with PFBB30. That hole is big enough to pass that battery in and out? Seems like the battery is too long, but I have no scale for reference.

I knew I made the right choice in groups this spring with mechanical SR. Electric is being updated every year with minor improvements. I'll wait until production cycles slow down. Mechanical Campagnolo is pretty stable and has been for several years.

even upon introduction you could see the internal battery and 11speed coming...people who had to have it back then face those costs as early adopters.

at this point, what big improvements remain?
- shrink the motors/take off weight
- customized hood shapes?
- more programming flexibility?
- one button synchronized chain ring / cassette shifts?
- lower price
- more cogs [ugh]

now that we are past early adoption, at some point if you want it you just have to jump in.

cfox · #15 08-26-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Big fail?..yikes..yep, gotta have an extra hole and frame makers like Moots have already made one....no bigger than a bottle mount brazeon.

Di2 recharged via a USB port, bring yer laptop! And I 'think' ya gotta buy the shimano software.

As for downtube..really not that big of a deal with PFBB30...

If yer that sweated up about it, mount next to bottle cage like a wee pump.

Bet about Moots? Bet you would be wrong..That tube really isn't that thin and 'some' frame makers don't get nervous and jerky about this sort of thing. Do you see bottle bosses on the RSL downtube? I do....

Not sweating! Shimano software is free to any human with a computer, and USBs have adapters to plug into wall outlets. I love, own, and use Campy, they are just a step behind in the e-shift game...ahh, it doesn't really matter, it all works