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Old 11-10-2018, 07:14 AM
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That's the early morning tweet from guess who.
I read it, I know who is tweet stormin again..tiresome, worrisome.
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Old 11-10-2018, 09:58 AM
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:32 AM
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There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!

Plenty of blame to go around, at the state and federal level https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...216160995.html
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Old 11-10-2018, 11:40 AM
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:02 PM
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My brother came into town. We rented him a bike and everything. But I don’t want to be inhaling this crap. 😷😪
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:04 PM
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The upside is that by the time these fires die out, most of the state will have burned in the last 5 years and it should be good for a while. Let's not forget that forest fires are a part of nature and need to happen.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:50 PM
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The upside is that by the time these fires die out, most of the state will have burned in the last 5 years and it should be good for a while. Let's not forget that forest fires are a part of nature and need to happen.
Indeed, fires are a part of nature. But losing many thousands of homes, businesses and lives doesn't "need to happen". Calling these fires an "upside" seems a little insensitive.

Now that we have "interrupted" nature a better way has to be found. Unfortunately, I don't know how we deal with the continuing droughts that are a large component of these fires.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:20 PM
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There have been plenty of destructive fires here in Northern CA in the last few years. Many have burned out entire neighborhoods on the edges of towns and cities. But this fire in Butte county is a new level of horror and destruction. Try to get your mind around a town of 27,000 covering about 25 square miles being completely enveloped in fire. Some homes and structures were saved, but this town is essentially burned off the map.

The fire is now in the town of Magalia 3 miles to the north which has about 11,000 people, most of whom are in a small area of about 5 square miles.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:22 PM
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I'm knocking on wood but it's a lovely 75F cloudless day in La Jolla with very gentle breezes. Maybe we are lucky our area is so built-up that there are few areas where really big fires could get to our neighborhood. OTOH we are close to the Rose Canyon Fault.
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Wow.
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Old 11-10-2018, 05:17 PM
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Here's a little perspective on the Camp Fire destruction

https://www.sfgate.com/california-wi...s-13378605.php

CA State managed forests:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._state_forests

Federally managed forestland:



FWIW, Malibu CA is not a forest:

The rest is private property. aka holy ground.

#falsenews #maga
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:59 PM
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Forgive the propaganda and ban me if needed.



https://yubanet.com/featured/now/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_wildfires

25 dead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.4558eb366c78

deep within the CA mis-managed forests

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/u...imes&smtyp=cur
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good links

I saw no “ propaganda” Rock Star
Apocalyptic
And I thought last fire season was bad
and it was the worst
until now
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