Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-18-2019, 06:44 AM
johnniecakes's Avatar
johnniecakes johnniecakes is offline
Pack fill
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 1,558
Grease for assembly?

My tub of antiseize is empty and I have a few projects coming up. The antiseize has always worked well but is a pain to clean up after. So if I decide to use grease for assembly (bottom bracket, headset cups) is the white grease with Teflon a good choice? Would the Teflon add a layer of protection against seizing that other lubricating greases do not? Or should I just Mobil 1 that I have a lot of?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-18-2019, 06:55 AM
oldpotatoe's Avatar
oldpotatoe oldpotatoe is offline
Proud Grandpa
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Republic of Boulder, USA
Posts: 47,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniecakes View Post
My tub of antiseize is empty and I have a few projects coming up. The antiseize has always worked well but is a pain to clean up after. So if I decide to use grease for assembly (bottom bracket, headset cups) is the white grease with Teflon a good choice? Would the Teflon add a layer of protection against seizing that other lubricating greases do not? Or should I just Mobil 1 that I have a lot of?
Antisieze is grease with 'stuff' in it, just like grease is oil in 'soap'..what you are trying to do is create a thin film between metal parts so they don't 'bond' together. Antisieze is a little more tenacious, why it's so tough to clean off..but grease works just fine too.

BTW..go to any auto parts store or decent hardware and they will have antisieze..any 'bike' stuff is the same stuff in different packaging..for more $ for generally less product.
__________________
Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-18-2019, 09:08 AM
FriarQuade FriarQuade is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: BendOR
Posts: 826
Stick to anti-seize for threaded parts, especially if you're not the best at maintenance. You can get a pack of acid brushes to apply it cleanly, should keep clean up to a minimum.
__________________
Abbey Bike Tools

Steels are Alloys too!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-18-2019, 10:42 AM
ScottW ScottW is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: NoVA
Posts: 319
I would not use the white grease with Teflon on threaded fittings. I once used it on a trailer hitch ball and over time it dried out and gummed up a little bit, even sitting inside a protective rubber cap that seemed decently sealed. Just a n=1 observation from a non-engineer.

Use proper anti-seize from an auto parts store. Even the ordinary Park Tool green polyurea grease will work (I use that for cassette lock rings). You pay slightly more $/oz than for automotive polyurea grease, but it comes in a 4 oz tube which is a little more convenient than storing a big grease gun sized tube of it.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-18-2019, 11:03 AM
tlittlefield tlittlefield is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester, NH
Posts: 520
Phil Wood grease has always worked for me over the past umpteen years..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-18-2019, 11:17 AM
speedevil's Avatar
speedevil speedevil is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: southeast Indiana
Posts: 276
You might consider a tub of Redline CV2 grease. Not expensive and it works very well. It has some moly in it. You can get a tub many places, even through amazon if you don't want to look around town for it.
__________________
Dale, NL4T
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-18-2019, 11:47 AM
bart998 bart998 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,269
Re:

I just use Phil or Park grease... never had a problem. Bikes aren't subject to the heat extremes in engines that anti-seize was developed for.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-18-2019, 12:52 PM
MURDERF4CE MURDERF4CE is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 330
I use Park grease.. never had any problems
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-18-2019, 12:56 PM
old_fat_and_slow old_fat_and_slow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ...
Posts: 2,586
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlittlefield View Post
phil wood grease has always worked for me over the past umpteen years..
+1
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-18-2019, 01:39 PM
Mike V's Avatar
Mike V Mike V is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NorCal
Posts: 2,576
Bought a vat of Mobil 1 grease many years ago and always used it with no problems. I compared it to Phil grease once and seemed the same.

Went out and looked and it said on the sticker price tag $1.59 for 3 lbs.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-18-2019, 04:00 PM
ultraman6970 ultraman6970 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 22,852
Ultra uses white lithium grease. Wont break down as bad as petroleum grease, excellent in extreme temperatures.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-19-2019, 08:02 AM
oldpotatoe's Avatar
oldpotatoe oldpotatoe is offline
Proud Grandpa
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Republic of Boulder, USA
Posts: 47,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
Ultra uses white lithium grease. Wont break down as bad as petroleum grease, excellent in extreme temperatures.
Yes, I use it as well but 'lithium' grease still has some dino in it(petroleum)..
Quote:
The main components of lithium soaps are lithium stearate and lithium 12-hydroxystearate.[3] In addition to soap, soap-based lubricating greases also contain hydrocarbon oils and other components.
__________________
Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-19-2019, 08:47 AM
ultraman6970 ultraman6970 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 22,852
Needs to have something or the mix wouldnt work.

What Ive done in some stuff is to put 100% silicon grease in some stuff, not bearings but contact points, that thing will stand anything. And the best is that it wont harm plastics or rubber. For the record, bad idea using it in bearings ok? is not for that,, contact points like brake bushings for example.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-19-2019, 11:01 AM
johnniecakes's Avatar
johnniecakes johnniecakes is offline
Pack fill
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 1,558
Thanks everyone, I have 2 steel frames that are getting shimano bottom brackets so I am heading out to get a small tub/tube of nickel antiseize for assembly.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-19-2019, 11:27 AM
choke's Avatar
choke choke is offline
il Curmudgeoni
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Middle of nowhere
Posts: 3,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike V View Post
Bought a vat of Mobil 1 grease many years ago and always used it with no problems. I compared it to Phil grease once and seemed the same.

Went out and looked and it said on the sticker price tag $1.59 for 3 lbs.
I'd say it was a few years ago....
__________________
"I am just a blacksmith" - Dario Pegoretti
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.