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I also question whether the bags were resistant to the gasoline solvents and if they didn't start leaking soon after they were filled.
Gasoline does a number on my latex gloves in short order, I wouldn't be surprised if it eats through the bags.
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Post Of Yesterday. Funny(like funny strange) to see ALL those people rushing to buy a GBT, Great Big Truck. Auto makers love it cuz they make more money per on them. Not 'bad' mileage on these, BUT, might sting a bit when gas goes to $5 per or so. The US driver has gotten lazy(what a surprise)...with 'cheap' gas. Gas in Europe is twice(+?) what it is in the US.
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But to me the most worrisome of all this is just how unbelievably selfish we as Americans have become. I’m up there in age and have lived through all kinds of shortages, oil embargoes. I’ve watched as decades of natural disasters hit our country. Maybe I’ve slipped into that period of life where the past is blurred by time but I don’t seem to remember when we were ever - as a country - this so self centered and selfish. People fighting over toilet paper, filling up plastic bags with gasoline. I look at the bicycle and I see such a beautiful creation with endless possibilities of freedom, movement, adventure and joy. I sincerely believe the bicycle could help save the planet if we’d just give it a chance. Then I see scenes play out like the ones these last few days and I wonder. It wouldn’t take much to tip us over to a Lord of the Flies.
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I think part of the issue is America's live in a land of consumerism, excess, accessibility, cheap. People cannot handle the idea of running out of something. It's also a every man for themselves mentality. We are doomed as a society.
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A lot of people decided to live in remote areas and have giant vehicles. They really need gas to keep all that going, I doubt a lot of them could afford to miss work because they couldn't drive, and they need massive quantities of gas to drive. Rush hour of traffic going to Penn State stretches halfway to Harrisburg (90 miles), and people are driving similar distances from every direction. I can't imagine all these giant lifted pickups that Ford, GM, and Dodge are selling them get much more than 20-30mpg, so they are burning a lot of gas.
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 But in all seriousness, Europe and US is not a good comparison. Lifestyle (do they need a car, how many people in the fam), property size (is there room for a car), road size, etc. is different over there. Also pretty sure price of gas correlates to amount of regulation.
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The gas pumps here in SC were all sold out for the last couple of days. We both primarily work from home so no need for us to go fill up. We did see a tanker truck at a gas station last night in Greenville, so deliveries are being made again. So what's the next panic going to be about......
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It's interesting there's been a lot of coverage of this cyber attack and a lot of prattle from various "experts" and now there's a lot of talk about new government regulations and certifications and requirements for companies to work with the government around security. Also talk about how the hackers need to be held responsible. I remember a few years ago hearing Michael Flynn talk (yes that guy) at a work conference and we were all scratching our heads wondering what he was high on because he made little sense. A lot of the experts on the news the last few days have sounded like that to me.
It sounds like a bunch of bollocks to me to borrow a british term. I work on a computer security product and we already have tons of government certifications and programs we have to go through to sell to the military/government. I am already envisioning feature requirements coming down the pike that we have to implement from this. None of this stuff is going to matter in the slightest, the word on the street so far is this gas company got hacked through their Microsoft Exchange server and it sounds like the company was extremely naive about computer security. More government involvement is not going to solve this stuff unless the government starts forcing these companies to go through audits where some new wing of the NSA comes in and the government forces these companies to take security seriously. You're not going to accomplish much trying to "work" with this gas company when they're probably not doing anything right now and they're getting their whole system hacked & encrypted through Exchange. There's just more likely to be tons of low hanging fruit that a company like this should have dealt with but didn't either because they were naive or cheap. Also there's no way they're holding Russian/Chinese/Iranian/N. Korean hackers accountable unless we're prepared to really escalate diplomatic situations or end up in a war. It's way easier to just start penalizing these companies and hit them with a stick instead of trying to enable them to continue to be lazy & cheap with security. I know we're just talking about a run on gas but the cause is having some other fascinating ripples. Last edited by benb; 05-14-2021 at 10:13 AM.
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