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Old 03-03-2021, 03:53 PM
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Milwaukee M12 for me. We all have different needs. The OP said "I have NEVER owned one before in my life" so I'll guess that he is not using the tool all day and probably doesn't need crazy high torque for removing rusted dump truck suspension bolts.

In that case what makes most sense is something that's lightweight, holds a good charge if it's not used for a month, and will be reliable for multi year use.

I have that same use case, so the Milwaukee M12 or Bosch equivalent is perfect. Anything bigger is not more useful, just heavy.

As for using an impact driver on a bicycle, NFW, ever. But hey, take that risk if you want to.
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Old 03-03-2021, 04:02 PM
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I'm invested in the Ryobi system and I just got the new P262 1/2" impact driver. I tested it out with a half-dead battery on some really torqued-down lug bolts (that I had uggaduggaed with my air wrench) and it got them loose quickly. I know there are other brands that are better, but the price/breakaway torque on this driver ain't bad any $159/600 ft lbs.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:23 PM
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Somehow I found this M12 set on Amazon refurbed for $110 a couple years ago.

Perfect for my use.



They looked new when I got them. No clue what was refurbished.

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sometimes they are just returns, maybe missing some parts and sent back to the vendor. we got stuff like that all the time at Lowes.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:34 PM
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Ok, I have to add my $.02:
Makita is the best for drivers/drills & impact drivers.
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:28 PM
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So, when I needed a new drill, I threw down for a big Milwaukee kit with a hammer drill and impact tool and about a gazillion bits and tips.

I am about as far away from being handy or a diy guy, but every once in a while, I do need to try to fix something.

Problem is I have no idea about the differences among the various bits and how to get the most out of the tools.

Any good tutorials for dummies?
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:14 PM
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Just an update, I picked up some Dewalt XR stuff. Driver, hammer drill, and oscillating tool.

I love em but im bummed that they dont make an long impact ratchet for automotive hard to reach stuff..
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:18 PM
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I don't feel as bad about mixing brands of tools now that the batteries last a while.

The nice thing about milwaukee chargers is that at least some of them will charge both 18v and 12v packs
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Old 03-04-2021, 01:50 PM
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I don't feel as bad about mixing brands of tools now that the batteries last a while.

The nice thing about milwaukee chargers is that at least some of them will charge both 18v and 12v packs
Yeah same with Dewalt. They'll do 12/20v on the same charger. Pretty nifty.
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Old 03-04-2021, 02:20 PM
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I didn't know that about Dewalt. Milwaukee 12v tools are more compelling though. Just noticed they have a $600 electric drive torque wrench
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Old 03-04-2021, 02:29 PM
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I've had great luck with Milwaukee
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:00 PM
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I am pretty happy with my Milwaukee but I feel the quality has gotten worse since I used them as a tradesman. I would be interested in Makita since they are the only in house brand still, without any parent companies to make budget cuts.
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:11 PM
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sometimes they are just returns, maybe missing some parts and sent back to the vendor. we got stuff like that all the time at Lowes.
Yeah I'm sure tons of that exists in our retail world these days.

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Ok, I have to add my $.02:
Makita is the best for drivers/drills & impact drivers.
I have contractor friends who would certainly agree with you on that.
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Old 03-05-2021, 01:18 AM
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+1 on Makita.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:11 AM
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Another +1 for makita. I was able to get a 1/2 in drive one that will put out over 1k ft/lbs for around $150. You can always get adapters for battery compatibility between brands.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:39 AM
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This is like Ford vs Chevy really.. a decent amount of religion is part of it.

I have a 20V Dewalt 1/4" impact driver.

It's a sometimes tool.. I would not use it casually on a car and I would never let it within 10ft of a bike.

Very easy to break fasteners if you're not being smart.

Every once in a while it comes in incredibly handy, and 99% of the time that is taking something apart, not putting something together.

E.x. rough outdoor woodworking stuff where you're taking something apart and are going to replace the fasteners anyway.

Mine is not even an XR.. it has no speed or torque settings, and even at that level in the line it is hard to control and really easy to break stuff.

Last fall we built a wood in ground frame to put a hot tub on.. I recall using it to drive some huge lag bolts through the 4x4 pressure treated posts and it was pretty ridiculous for that. Absolutely no problem and it was shocking how fast the job was done. But the regular driver also has enough torque for bolts like that and is way more precise.
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