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Old 10-04-2024, 03:32 PM
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Open Upper Conce.pt

Something new from Open Cycle:
https://opencycle.com/blog/u.p.per.-conce.pt

It appears to be an updated UPPER with aero headtube/seatcluster, UDH, T47, more tire clearance, and made in Portugal. Limited run of M and L sizes.

More generally, Open is revisiting, updating, iterating, etc their frames.

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Old 10-04-2024, 03:34 PM
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I'll start. I like what Open does. The Wi.De is my favorite bike - versatile, dynamic, comfortable, fun bike. An update to their bikes is overdue. My thoughts on the preliminary specs:

the good: T47, UDH, more tire clearance

the bad: aero, full internal cable, not fenderable
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Old 10-04-2024, 04:04 PM
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I didn't see anything about tire clearance or geometry?
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Old 10-04-2024, 04:10 PM
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I didn't see anything about tire clearance or geometry?
Gerard mentions a few more things in responding to comments.
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Old 10-04-2024, 04:55 PM
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The press-in BB was one of my main sticking points when looking at a Wide. I finally relented when a few friends w/ Opens said their BBs had been flawless and a Wide came up at a price I couldn't turn down. I also remember reading a post from Open about the benefits of press-in so I'd love to hear the reason for the change.

I could do w/o in-frame storage if that means a lighter frame. The Lauf founders were interviewed on a recent Escape Collective podcast episode and mentioned how putting a big a hole in a carbon frame and thus breaking up the run of fibers required lots of reinforcement to build the strength backup.
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Old 10-04-2024, 05:01 PM
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DO.ES A.NY.ONE KN.OW W.H.Y T.HEY NA.ME T.HE.IR MOD.E.LS L.IKE TH.I.S?
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Old 10-05-2024, 12:41 AM
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I'll start. I like what Open does. The Wi.De is my favorite bike - versatile, dynamic, comfortable, fun bike. An update to their bikes is overdue. My thoughts on the preliminary specs:

the good: T47, UDH, more tire clearance

the bad: aero, full internal cable, not fenderable
Upper is my fav bike but would love to try a Wide one day.

Fenders- I gave up full coverage fenders (for my area). I’ve got a set of SKS Speedrockers for the Upper. I’d imagine they’d fit the new version as well.

Love the update, minus the internal cables.
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:01 AM
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A stealthy screen grab from insta stories...
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:36 AM
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I like how it looks. Curious what they do with geometry as the current opens seem a little outdated on that front
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Old 10-05-2024, 06:04 AM
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How exciting. I have the UP purchased when one came up for cheap. (Its supposed to be the same frame flex characteristics as UPPER but of course Jan Heine says he can tell the difference) I absolutely love this thing. Its become my main road bike with 700 35 and I just put wider tires 700 44 for gravel which has been fine for the gravel I do. Can always go with 650b for wider too. It has mostly replaced both road and gravel bikes. This looks like a cool update. I love the full internal and consider this a minimalist bike- no fenders. I could lose the front derailleur mount too.

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A stealthy screen grab from insta stories...
Those shifters look like they were set up by a 55yo man with chronic back pain!
...or those bars have almost 0 reach to them?

Can't totally tell what is happening.
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What about 650b?
I don’t see that mentioned.
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Old 10-05-2024, 08:37 AM
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i really like my U.P. I've been on it for 6 years and am overdue due for a refresh. I've been hanging on the news of the new/improved version. Imo they are great allround bikes.
Concept u.a.l.l.y
this new bike is on point with all the features (except 2x) but aesthetics leave a lot to be desired. I guess I was expecting something more Aspero-like, instead the head tube seems straight off a Racemax. That barstem looks broken. Maybe irl it looks better, rides better but to be honest I'm kind of disappointed.
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Old 10-28-2024, 09:22 AM
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Apparently this limited production frame is going to have a 1 piece cockpit with reach adjustment? Does any other manufacturer offer something like this with a one piece cockpit?

Looking at the photo of the stem cap, it appears to be oval. I assume use of different spacers would allow the stem to be shifted forward or back.

One of the comments on the Open Blog Post linked to a review with additional details: https://bike-cafe.fr/2024/10/open-u-...aires-de-2025/

M size frame: stem 80-95mm (80/85/90/95mm choice), 420mm wide handlebars;
L size frame: stem from 90 to 105 mm (choice of 90/95/100/105 mm), handlebar width 430 mm.
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