Scam Site Listing Speedvagen @ $799.99

[kbone]

https://lilyshops.com/?product=speed...eady-made-bike

Anyone know the guys at Speedvagen? I sent something to Speedvagen via a contact form but it may go unnoticed. They should know about this.

[tsarpepe]

It was pretty cheap even before the "sale".

[jtakeda]

PM user “crankles”

I’ll also send this to a buddy and he can text Sacha

[Jmj2323]

Three stock sizes and no drop down to pick a size. I guess I’ll roll the dice and hope a 58 shows up

[soulspinner]

with Enve and Chris king parts ( labeled?) no less.

[peanutgallery]

What kind of hipster lifestyle machine is that?

Where do you put the hula hoop

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by peanutgallery

What kind of hipster lifestyle machine is that?

Where do you put the hula hoop

Now Grandpa we told you to relax and have a seat in the easy chair. I'll bring you the sports page and a Coors Light.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by kbone

https://lilyshops.com/?product=speed...eady-made-bike

Anyone know the guys at Speedvagen? I sent something to Speedvagen via a contact form but it may go unnoticed. They should know about this.

Not sure what you can do about someone not selling your product. I mean it's wrong and all but is it in any way really affecting Speedvagen? If it was real grey market a dozen or so people here would already own one!

[GonaSovereign]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Not sure what you can do about someone not selling your product. I mean it's wrong and all but is it in any way really affecting Speedvagen? If it was real grey market a dozen or so people here would already own one!

It diminishes the SV brand, for starters. (And IMHO SVs are nice, but really rely on their brand as the differentiator.)

Thos photos probably belong to someone else, who paid to have them shot. SV or someone paid to have the copy written.

Plenty of theft going on there.

The only really interesting this is Lilyshops’ address is listed as 195 Howard St, American Falls,ID. I expected something farther afield.

There are a couple businesses listed there. Maybe a local PLer can do a ride-by...

[madsciencenow]

Originally Posted by GonaSovereign

It diminishes the SV brand, for starters. (And IMHO SVs are nice, but really rely on their brand as the differentiator.)



Thos photos probably belong to someone else, who paid to have them shot. SV or someone paid to have the copy written.



Plenty of theft going on there.



The only really interesting this is Lilyshops’ address is listed as 195 Howard St, American Falls,ID. I expected something farther afield.



There are a couple businesses listed there. Maybe a local PLer can do a ride-by...

The fact that this is “local” makes enforcement of SVs copyrights in those pics a possibility. I presume SV has a registered trademark on the Speedvagen name which upon learning of this would likely incur some obligation on them to shut this down. Ultimately, it prolly ends up costing SV more than it’s worth, imho.


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[biker72]

Domain registered in Panama.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by GonaSovereign

It diminishes the SV brand, for starters. (And IMHO SVs are nice, but really rely on their brand as the differentiator.)



Thos photos probably belong to someone else, who paid to have them shot. SV or someone paid to have the copy written.



Plenty of theft going on there.



The only really interesting this is Lilyshops’ address is listed as 195 Howard St, American Falls,ID. I expected something farther afield.



There are a couple businesses listed there. Maybe a local PLer can do a ride-by...

Sure and I don’t disagree. It’s just that they don’t care and will move on to some other product to try and scam with. I think this is less a problem for a Speedvagen than say fashion or actual knock off electronics. Diluting the brand only happens when the potential buyers are actually aware of the brand. Go stand on the street and ask a thousand people and nobody will know who you are talking about.

Nobody is riding around on a knock off Speedvagen. Not yet anyway.


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[charliedid]

Here is the business :-)

[joosttx]

Originally Posted by charliedid

now grandpa we told you to relax and have a seat in the easy chair. I'll bring you the sports page and a coors light.

p.o.d.

[GonaSovereign]

Originally Posted by charliedid

Diluting the brand only happens when the potential buyers are actually aware of the brand. Go stand on the street and ask a thousand people and nobody will know who you are talking about.

Fair point!