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Old 03-31-2024, 04:12 PM
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More Pegoretti queries

Completed my fitting at Lakeside on Friday and determined that the Marcelo they have in stock would not look proper with my required seat height (68cm with 160cm cranks). So, I need a 50cm, and most likely will have to abandon Campy as they do not do 160cm cranks presently. That does open up the options for models for me.

Just how stiff are the OS tubed Pegs? I am not light, I am currently 102kg and continue to come down off that figure, I am built a bit like a track rider, and can generate some power when poked with a hot stick. We ride a lot on chip-sealed roads and with the room for 28c tires I am wary of riding a bike too stiff. Currently ride an Aethos and it could be smoother but, my weight requires high pressure in the tires and the bike is 14lbs so it can chatter a bit. Certainly not looking at BLE but, Round, Marcelo, will they be too stiff?

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Old 03-31-2024, 04:49 PM
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To each their own but I would buy the bicycle that matches where I want to be in three to five years and add that to the motivation to get there.

I wouldn’t buy any new road bicycle without clearance for 30s, ideally 32s. I’m low/mid 80kgs and they are another step better than 28s.

32s are to 90kg cyclists what 30s are to 80kg cyclists and what 27s/28s are to 70kg cyclists these days.
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Old 03-31-2024, 05:19 PM
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I'm 71kgs and lean but not in race shape. I'm reluctant to go below 30s these days. They're no slower but they are more comfortable and grippier. Not game-changingly so, but it's noticeable.
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Old 03-31-2024, 06:18 PM
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Everyone has their own idea about what is comfortable. I am in the 75-80 kg range and have never found the BLE or Marcelo to be too stiff.
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Old 03-31-2024, 06:50 PM
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If you "continue to come down off that figure" I would wait until your bodyweight stabilizes to buy such an expensive frame.

A frame's "stiffness" is more than mitigated by the right tire width at the right pressure. If your Aethos is disc brake equipped, you should be able to fit wider tires and run them at lower pressures, getting the comfort you seek at your current bodyweight.

If you truly want shorter cranks, seek out Lennard Zinn's custom cranks.
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Old 03-31-2024, 07:30 PM
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Everyone has their own idea about what is comfortable. I am in the 75-80 kg range and have never found the BLE or Marcelo to be too stiff.
And similarly, I'm 84 kg and ride 25mm tires almost all the time. 80-85# pressure and they're fine.

Does Lakeside have a Responsorium or Duende that fits you?

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Old 03-31-2024, 08:27 PM
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And similarly, I'm 84 kg and ride 25mm tires almost all the time. 80-85# pressure and they're fine.

Does Lakeside have a Responsorium or Duende that fits you?
wouldn't be a responsible drug dealer if they didn't . They do have a 50cm Respo (disc). I didn't pull the trigger on it because I am having quite a fight in my head about disc versus rim when it comes to "future-proof'ing" the bike. I am going to be 46 in 12 days so, should the creek not rise, I have a lot of time to spend on the bike and I worry about whether I will be able to maintain a rim brake bike, but I prefer the looks of rim. Campy has ceased to produce Ultra rim brake wheels, there are still so many great options for wheels but, parts in general worry me for a rim brake build in 2024. Such a first world problem!
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Old 03-31-2024, 08:48 PM
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I think there should be a concept like “dog years” for bikes. We think, given how much bikes cost, that we’re going to keep them forever. In reality 10 years is a really long time to ride the same bike. I’m confident that you can keep a rim/mechanical/whatever bike on the road for much longer than that.

What matters is how it rides (not how it looks). You’re lucky in that you have disk experience and you can compare it to a nice rim brake bike. Then make your choice.

However, you’re not getting married. Your athletic ability is going to change in the coming years. Even if it doesn’t, something else may catch your fancy.
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Old 03-31-2024, 08:56 PM
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However, you’re not getting married. Your athletic ability is going to change in the coming years. Even if it doesn’t, something else may catch your fancy.
sage advice, thank you!
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Old 03-31-2024, 09:00 PM
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I think you'd be fine with Marcelo or BLE or Round. I've been your weight and a couple kilos lighter, have had a Marcelo and currently have a BLE. These bikes are laterallly stiff but still quite comfortable. I rode all over France and Italy, up Ventoux and Gavia and the Stelvio, long stretches of dirt road, fairly poor tarmac to great roads, and up here in Seattle we have same types of roads as Portland (and I lived in Eugene when I first had the Marcelo). Road everywhere with 25s at 90-100psi.

The BLE is rigid but comfortable. It takes a bit more push to get up to speed than the Marcelo but once there. ....
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Old 03-31-2024, 09:00 PM
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What are you trying to achieve? 220 lbs is not super heavy but I’d expect that a 14 pound bike with high tire pressures would ‘chatter a bit’.

A current duende in your size will take 30-32’s and lower tire pressure will result in a much more comfortable ride. Or use an alternative wheelset with 26’s like I did today and go blaze the pavement
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Old 03-31-2024, 09:17 PM
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Peg?

Are you 100% sold on a Peg? Or just want something different? You have a really nice bike in the Aethos.
If I wanted a steel bike and lived where you live, I would get a Hampsten, English, or a Speedvagen.
All will make rim or disc. All will be very tuned to you and your needs.
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Old 04-01-2024, 10:22 AM
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I think there should be a concept like “dog years” for bikes. We think, given how much bikes cost, that we’re going to keep them forever. In reality 10 years is a really long time to ride the same bike. I’m confident that you can keep a rim/mechanical/whatever bike on the road for much longer than that.

What matters is how it rides (not how it looks). You’re lucky in that you have disk experience and you can compare it to a nice rim brake bike. Then make your choice.

However, you’re not getting married. Your athletic ability is going to change in the coming years. Even if it doesn’t, something else may catch your fancy.
Au contraire, mon frere.

Given the choice between (a) a crappy looking bike that rides sublimely and (b) an aesthetic marvel that rides like a tractor, I choose (c) hiking.

For me, bikes are functional works of art.
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Old 04-01-2024, 11:33 PM
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Given the choice between (a) a crappy looking bike that rides sublimely and (b) an aesthetic marvel that rides like a tractor, I choose (c) hiking.
Probability that the OP's potential Peg will be either (a) or (b): less than zero.
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Old 04-02-2024, 12:21 PM
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can you do a 51cm and do you know anyone in SF?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276407874008?

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