Campagnolo Gotta Wake Up!

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

The ergonomics of Campy levers just aren't suited to gravel handlebars either.....is what it is..

Off-road is all about function over form, unless posing for the 'gram or cultivating a fan-boy club to sell your own brand of products and an alternative cycling lifestyle.....nttawwt, but GRX is going to be really hard to beat at this point from a pure functionality perspective.

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but what is gravel handlebars? are we talking about flared bars?
I just can't which flared shifters... I love flare in the drops but to me a shifters should be straight.

Why I have, and really recommend to anyone, to get the 3T bars. My shifters are perfectly straight and then they flare out (a lot actually, a much as any gravel shifter).

I agree with GRX being hard to beat, its a good deal for what you get but you are also getting old tech (not saying old tech is bad but its nothing new, just branded gravel with better shifter ergonomics)

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by denapista

One brand is here to cater to your gravel desires and grab your money, the other is here to cater to instilling quality and heritage into cycling..

Well put.





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[jamesdak]

Originally Posted by zmalwo

1x is just another way to simplify stuff for the dummies who can't set up FD correctly and complain about chain dropping.

Some heads would explode if they saw that I even....gasp... run triples!



Crazy how they actually just seem to work for me.

[SimonC]

I think MTB became too specialised, and gravel is just a return to the (~20 year old) classic variant. Ironically often for those who were not around the first time...

[colker]

Originally Posted by NoMoreParagon

And it just sux so bad Campagnolo don’t cater for riders like me since I am sure I am not the only one in a similar situation


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Why the drama? Shimano makes what you need. Buy it. I promise : there is way more sux in this life than campagnolo not selling what you want.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

but what is gravel handlebars? are we talking about flared bars?
I just can't which flared shifters... I love flare in the drops but to me a shifters should be straight.

Why I have, and really recommend to anyone, to get the 3T bars. My shifters are perfectly straight and then they flare out (a lot actually, a much as any gravel shifter).

I agree with GRX being hard to beat, its a good deal for what you get but you are also getting old tech (not saying old tech is bad but its nothing new, just branded gravel with better shifter ergonomics)

I haven't tried the 3T bars - just my experience on other ones.. It's a long reach to the thumb button from flared gravel bars and the hand position on the hoods that I love for road riding with Campy ergos just doesn't feel as good off-road when I need to hang on a bit differently. My $0.02 - ymmmv..

[colker]

Originally Posted by SimonC

I think MTB became too specialised, and gravel is just a return to the (~20 year old) classic variant. Ironically often for those who were not around the first time...

If i remember correctly the mtb experiment was a nightmare for Campagnolo. Maybe they should stay away.

[jc031699]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Well put.





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Or maybe they’re all there to make money, just in different ways, at different scales, with different standards of style and target customers.


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[EricChanning]

Originally Posted by denapista

If you're stuffing 2.2 and 2.4 tires on your gravel bike, just get a MTB. At some point the gravel bike will become limited during your dirt adventures. My custom 29er rigid flies on dirt and road, and has an aggressive road style geometry.

I just feel like the industry swindled everyone into this gravel bike thing. Creating a new niche of cycling that already existed in MTB, in the form of a rigid. I also don't understand why people shun MTB so much. I guess everyone feels that riding a MTB, means you need flames on your helmet with a Troy Lee outfit....

I recently got back into riding MTB on a regular basis and bought an XC full suspension bike with a more slack geometry than my 90's rigid 26er. The new bike isn't built for the extreme stuff (no helmet flames needed) but it is so much more fun to ride than my old XC bike.

I could have skipped getting a gravel bike and used my old rigid 26er for gravel but then I'd have to deal with a triple crankset, a suspension fork and the position limiting flat bars. I could have customized the thing for the kind of gravel riding I like to do but nah.

I'm glad I got swindled into buying a gravel bike and updating my XC MTB with a 1X slack geo set up. I'm having more off-pavement fun than I could have imagined 20 years ago. Really. You talk about gravel bikes as if they were an early 90's bio pace kind of fad rather than something that makes sense for a lot of people. Curious about your custom 29er tho! Got a pic?

[colker]

Originally Posted by XXtwindad

Is this a Campy thread? Or a 1X thread? Can't comment on the former, but as to the latter, I think 1X makes perfect sense on a MTB. The rest really depends on the terrain. Little variance is great for the simplicity of a 1X, but if you've got undulating hills punctuated with lots of flats (excuse the pun), a 2X makes a better option.

Daymond John to a contestant who "projected" sales that John thought was wildly overoptimistic: "And I'm projecting myself to look like the guy from 'Thor' next year." Funnier than hell. Love that guy.

The main reason for 1x is sticking a fat tire on a 700 wheel under a bike w/ short chainstays. Campagnolo is not focused on really fat tires.

[shinomaster]

Somehow I managed to race cross and ride "gravel" (gravel is a terrible surface on which to ride/race btw., dirt is more appropriate) on a steel bike with narrow rims and a Campy, Centaur ten speed group (which lasted about ten years), and I never felt hindered by the RD. The crank was cobbled together with a PMP 48 and a Record 36 ring. I see the new Chorus stuff as a big improvement and wish I had it ten years ago obviously. I agree that the bike industry is forcing much of this stuff on us. Sure if you are a first time bike buyer go with it, but I'm keeping my cross bike and riding over every surface with 32's and road parts.

P.S. I'd rather get a 29'r MTB than a gravel bike.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by jc031699

Or maybe they’re all there to make money, just in different ways, at different scales, with different standards of style and target customers.


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Probably, but if it isn't hurting anyone, why not wear the rose-colored glasses?

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[tomato coupe]

I don't see what all the fuss is about. I ride and race gravel with Campy -- it works just fine.

[ultraman6970]

I have a bike with it too. I think marketing did just enough so they were able to sell those new 1x components, and now everybody like going after those set ups when with a triple you go almost the same w/o having those giant jumps in the cogs.

Originally Posted by jamesdak

Some heads would explode if they saw that I even....gasp... run triples!



Crazy how they actually just seem to work for me.

[Dave]

The new 48/32 with an 11-34 provides a bit lower gearing than a triple with a 28 little ring and 29 sprocket. The bigger jumps are just where they are needed.