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Old 11-17-2017, 08:12 AM
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Any benefit to Aero handlebars on a regular road bike

I currently have 3T Ergonova pro handlebars and stem on my road bike. A 2009 Fuji team carbon. They are more aero than a regular round bar I guess, but would I see any noticeable benefit from something like an integrated carbon aero bar and stem combo?

I know the biggest cause of drag on the bike is myself, so I’m thinking only about bike weight and bike aerodynamics here.

For a little perspective, I am a top 10 cat 4 rider. So I am moving a little faster than your average commuter, but I have a long way to go.


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Old 11-17-2017, 08:15 AM
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In general, real aero benefits kick in over 20mph. If you spend a lot of your time riding over 20mph, then every little bit helps. If you have lost races by a tire width, every little bit helps. As you move up the ladder though, the equipment playing field gets a lot more level. Don't look at these things as advantages, more like keeping up with the Joneses.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:14 AM
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Most aero benefits - like internal cable routing, flattop handlebars, aero frame stylings - are quite small, with the difference only being made by all of them together (and, in addition to deep wheels, an aero helmet, and a reasonably aero position on the bike).

given the cost of an integrated bar/stem unit, its small aero benefits, and its drawbacks (inability to adjust the angle of the bars, sinking money into something you can't change if you decide you'd rather ride a little longer, or shorter, or whatever) - i wouldn't bother.

you'd probably get more aero benefits by using a handlebar 2cm narrower than what you're on now.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:22 AM
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I've never seen any justification for the statements "aero doesn't matter until X speed." That's really just a cycling myth.

As far as seeing any benefit from an aerodrop bar - the only place you'd actually see it is on a stop watch (regardless of speed), its to small to feel it from the saddle. Whether the benefit is "significant" really depends on your perspective. If you lost your last sprint by half a wheel, or lost your last TT by 10 seconds, then they could be very significant to you. But if it doesn't matter if you do a century ride in 5:31:00 min or 5:35:30., then they might not be too significant to you. Some people ride aero road bars just because they find the flat tops more comfortable.

(All that being said, I've got aero road bars on the bike I use for criterium racing, but standard round bars on the bike I use for hilly century rides.)
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:00 AM
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Thanks yall for the feedback. Sounds like the semi-aero 3T bars I have now should be fine. I would probably do better to spend that extra $$ on some lighter groupset components or even just trimming the last 20mm off my steerer tube. I'm just looking for little ways to make this current bike better here and there.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:14 AM
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The short answer to me is... NOPE
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Old 11-18-2017, 07:24 AM
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Thanks yall for the feedback. Sounds like the semi-aero 3T bars I have now should be fine. I would probably do better to spend that extra $$ on some lighter groupset components or even just trimming the last 20mm off my steerer tube. I'm just looking for little ways to make this current bike better here and there.
Or spend the $ on you since real 'significant' performance gains come from

-Fit-does the bike fit you?
-Fitness-are you 'fit'
-Fat-lack thereof on you
-Finesse-riding, racing, training smart

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Old 11-18-2017, 09:47 AM
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Or spend the $ on you since real 'significant' performance gains come from



-Fit-does the bike fit you?

-Fitness-are you 'fit'

-Fat-lack thereof on you

-Finesse-riding, racing, training smart



IMHO, of course.


Of those, I'd self assess and say
Bike fit. Did it myself but it feels right. I've never paid for a proper fitting but our would prob be a good idea.
Fitness. Def want more fitness. I have a plan to start winter strength work this week already. I want my CrossFit endurance back.
Fat. Batting .1000 there. I'm at my race weight and feel awesome. Wife and I are 4 months into a vegan diet and I've not seen any fitness regression in that time.
Finesse. Could always be better. Grew up on MTBs, so I feel comfortable with my skills. But CX has been teaching me to ride "lighter" and be more aware of the terrain. As for road riding and racing, tight groups don't bother me, probably because I haven't crashed yet.

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Old 11-19-2017, 07:17 AM
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Of those, I'd self assess and say
Bike fit. Did it myself but it feels right. I've never paid for a proper fitting but our would prob be a good idea.
Fitness. Def want more fitness. I have a plan to start winter strength work this week already. I want my CrossFit endurance back.
Fat. Batting .1000 there. I'm at my race weight and feel awesome. Wife and I are 4 months into a vegan diet and I've not seen any fitness regression in that time.
Finesse. Could always be better. Grew up on MTBs, so I feel comfortable with my skills. But CX has been teaching me to ride "lighter" and be more aware of the terrain. As for road riding and racing, tight groups don't bother me, probably because I haven't crashed yet.

All IMHO. Of course.


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Sounds great but I guess my point is aero or non aero bars has more to do with bike fit then being more 'aero'..just cuz they aren't round.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:24 AM
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I've never seen any justification for the statements "aero doesn't matter until X speed." That's really just a cycling myth.
I didn't say that. Read it again.

I'm not going to throw out studies, charts, graphs, and all that. I can tell you what I know based on my own experiences. I have won races by tire widths and the guy I beat wasn't as aero. But there are many factors involved in that, like kick, closing speed, technique, position, draft, etc. You can't say it's all about the aero components.

I am one of the best descenders in my club. If a group of us roll off a summit from a stop, the heaviest guys will pull ahead first. Once we get over 20mph, the aero guys start pulling ahead. I see this consistently, over and over again. It doesn't matter what the pitch is, once the speedometer goes over 20, things sort out. Try it yourself.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:37 AM
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I think brad soon will realize when he hits over 40 that aero or not aero the body won't feel the same, and for that my advice after "been there and done that" in cycling is... "enjoy your rides while you can... enjoy the racing while you can... and dont worry about the equipment that much, is not going to be decisive at all... life is short, enjoy it"
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:41 AM
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Every little bit helps. Even if it gives you more confidence to tackle harder rides. For me, I don't use the tops much, so it doesn't feel any different than normal bars. If you do use the tops, then you should consider that.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:24 AM
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I think brad soon will realize when he hits over 40 that aero or not aero the body won't feel the same, and for that my advice after "been there and done that" in cycling is... "enjoy your rides while you can... enjoy the racing while you can... and dont worry about the equipment that much, is not going to be decisive at all... life is short, enjoy it"
Man I'm already 37, and I don't even feel like I've hit my prime yet.

But I do try to enjoy my rides and races. Speaking of... the weather is TOO nice to be sitting at the comp on a mid-November day. I'll be back in a couple of hours.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:43 AM
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Its your $$, spend it on what you like.

...but I'd suggest spending that $ on coaching or a fit first ...OR... even a self-coaching book. More strength/fitness is going to go further than more aero bits.

My $.02 and YMMV and all that

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Old 11-17-2017, 12:34 PM
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Another thing to consider. If you feel you are need to reward yourself for all the training you do, aero bits can be a good reward and will help a bit.
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