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Pele remains No. 1 IMNSHO but Maradona is in the discussion with Cruyff, Beckenbauer and Messi. What a player. And the goal against England in 86 is the greatest ever.
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And David Squires (football cartoonist at the Guardian) has paid a poignant tribute to the man. It's worth a browse.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...aradona-murals |
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"What Pele could do with a ball Maradona could do with an Orange." I can remember who said this.
He came from such humble beginnings. He seemed to have serious lapses in judgment during his life: Getting mixed up with the Napoli Cosa Nostra, fathering children out of wedlock, etc. I appreciated that he stood up for the working class people of Argentina, Brazil, Bolivia, Cuba, and Venezuela. He was very hostile toward US policies particular under Dubya Bush. I appreciated his authentic personality. Fellow team member Goycochea getting emotional about Maradona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwhOXWBFYAA This video kind of epitomizes, what I love about South American, Italian, and Spanish culture. They are not afraid to be demonstrative. My step-father was an Italian Argentina and the best man I ever knew so I am biased toward that lovely country. Che Diego mis condolencias a su familia, sus amigos y los hinchas en los barrios. Mi Buenos Aires Querido cuando te vuelvo a ver No habra mas pena y ni olvido Dear Buenos Aires when will I see you again There will not be more pain and I won't forget you -Carlos Gardel.
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That’s quite magnificent as well.
Almost conjures up the ole Bjorg Lillien “your boys took a helluva beating” line. Only thing better would have been the last defender to be Maggie Thatcher, for that war against Argentina |
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As a first-generation American, I was fortunate to be raised in a family with strong Italian and Argentinean cultural roots, so can fully appreciate what you mean. My father was a hardcore, passionate fan of soccer: huge fan of Maradona as a player, naturally (except when Argentina played Italy in the WC). The locals in Napoli wrote songs about him back in the 80s. He was clearly revered in his native Argentina as well. He lived the life of several men, shortened as it turned out to be. Operated on alternate vibrations compared to most. . Last edited by ciclista_tifoso; 12-01-2020 at 07:08 PM. |
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Currently watching the HBO doc, its absolutely wonderful so far. So much amazing footage. Last edited by R3awak3n; 12-01-2020 at 09:15 PM. |
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But then I'd also put Teofilo Cubillas in the top 10 and no one else would, most likely because he played for bad Peruvian teams.
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That said, Cruijff is in a separate class. Yes, he had no major international wins, but no one else has shaped football the way he has, both as a player and as a coach. In his former capacity, he led Ajax to a European Cup threepeat and helped to revitalize the fortunes of Barça. In his latter capacity, much of the success of modern-day Barça can be traced back to him, including his development of la Masia. He was responsible for piecing together the Barça squad of the late 80s and early 90s, and his coaching philosophy lives on through Pep Guardioloa. Pele, Eusebio, Maradonna, Beckenbauer, and Ronaldo are all excellent players, and other than Eusebio, all have won accolades with their respective national teams, but no one has shaped football the way Cruijff has, in both the club game and the international game, and in two different countries, to boot. Last edited by echappist; 12-01-2020 at 10:56 PM. |
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If you ask the english I think they wont agree he was one of the best, after all they were thrown out of the world cup due to an amazing goal and another one that could be called one of the biggest sport cheats of all time.
Soccer fans dont forget fast, here in Mexico we havent forgotten how we were thrown out by the Netherlands in the 2014 World cup by what we think was a non existent penalty kick with Robben. But yes, he was an amazing player. |
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https://www.npr.org/2020/11/30/94004...-legends-death
Maradona doc under investigation after death. Looks like he was a pretty difficult patient in terms of following recs etc. |
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Just learned (via Mario Cipollini a short time ago) that the great Paolo Rossi has also joined Diego Maradona.
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