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Old 08-22-2020, 08:05 PM
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Two Marin firefighters were trapped by flames, but were fortunate to be rescued by a helicopter:

https://youtu.be/dckKcpqSgDs?t=150
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Old 08-22-2020, 08:45 PM
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What phoenix said X1000
Totally inept leadership for decades.
Surfed today in SC, it was bad, very bad air quality.
Best friend had to evacuate his home in Bonny Doon with his son.
North of Davenport closed to everyone.

I have ridden and hiked most of the trails mentioned here in the bay area, on both sides of the peninsula and along both sides of Skyline blvd. It is a total mess. Our fearless leader here in CA should have activated the National Guard 2 days ago. Saw military choppers making recon runs, blackhawks, hueys, you name it trying to help figure this out.

Pisses me off to no end.
The prevailing thought to forest management or ecological management when I was in graduate school can be summed up to "let things be as much as possible." This was a great policy for large land owners like PG&E, State and Federal governments because it allow them to say "hey we are being ecologically mindful and cutting edge" while not spending money on it. Thats the best solution right, looking good while being cheap. There is much more to this but I am not writing a book or even an essay.
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Old 08-22-2020, 08:56 PM
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:11 PM
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depending on the terrain (more scrub/brush) let the goats go to town! seriously. better than controlled burns.
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:16 PM
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Let’s leave politics out of it. California hasn’t been in a good financial position in forever. This complex of fires has affected numerous friends and family members I’ve known for 55 years and it totally sucks.

Phoenix was tongue in cheek about raking forests.
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:22 PM
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a couple of good websites.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/science-tech...5Y6RVUTN4Qdx_U

this one actually shows the planes and helicopters dumping retardant and water on the fires.

https://www.flightradar24.com/37.23,-122.16/11
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:47 PM
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this is an amazing site. thx. for the link.

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this one actually shows the planes and helicopters dumping retardant and water on the fires.

https://www.flightradar24.com/37.23,-122.16/11
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:08 PM
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Why is that gasman? Waiting.......
@brook_63: Not to interfere, but I believe Gasman may have been alluding to the following pulled from the Paceline User Agreement. We usually leave politics out of it on this forum:

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Old 08-22-2020, 10:15 PM
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Why is that gasman? Waiting.......
Have been around a while, a long while, have family and friends around the bay area and Sonoma county that have been affected too.

phoenix might have been, I was not.

Will just leave it at that.
One more retort and I will just delete my comment.

You're new here so let me suggest that we don't get so confrontational with each other.
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:21 PM
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Why is that gasman? Waiting.......
Have been around a while, a long while, have family and friends around the bay area and Sonoma county that have been affected too.

phoenix might have been, I was not.

Will just leave it at that.
One more retort and I will just delete my comment.
As Steve and Ken commented we only have a few hard rules and leaving politics out is one of them.

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Old 08-22-2020, 10:23 PM
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a couple of good websites.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/science-tech...5Y6RVUTN4Qdx_U

this one actually shows the planes and helicopters dumping retardant and water on the fires.

https://www.flightradar24.com/37.23,-122.16/11
Good links thanks man.
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:32 PM
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:44 PM
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The prevailing thought to forest management or ecological management when I was in graduate school can be summed up to "let things be as much as possible." This was a great policy for large land owners like PG&E, State and Federal governments because it allow them to say "hey we are being ecologically mindful and cutting edge" while not spending money on it. Thats the best solution right, looking good while being cheap. There is much more to this but I am not writing a book or even an essay.
Isn't the best policy don't build homes in a fire zone? The Tejon Pass could burn for weeks and it wouldn't endanger anyone.
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