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Old 12-15-2019, 12:45 PM
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Differences between a cross vs. gravel bike.

Watching the Cross Nationals (Shout Out to Jim Brown, Hold Fast my friend) an noticed the substantial amount of pavement in the course. That leads me to my question. Other than marketing, why two separate genres?
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Old 12-15-2019, 01:01 PM
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most cross bikes (real race cross bikes).. lack a lot of things that "gravel bike" have... it's not just geo which cross bike will be quick handling like road race bikes.

water bottle bosses
fender mounts
cross is tire size limited by rules... so less clearance then most gravel
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Old 12-15-2019, 01:02 PM
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Some geo differences, think road race vs endurance bikes, and Gravel bikes keep getting built around larger and larger tires to the point now where 40mm is almost the "standard" and 650b is something many ask for. A cross bike is always built to perform with 33mm tires on a cross course and tend to handle a bit quicker
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Old 12-15-2019, 01:39 PM
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Wow, it sounds like a cross bike is the do it all bike for me. Thankfully they are cheap enough to try.
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Old 12-15-2019, 01:40 PM
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most cross bikes (real race cross bikes).. lack a lot of things that "gravel bike" have... it's not just geo which cross bike will be quick handling like road race bikes.

water bottle bosses
fender mounts
cross is tire size limited by rules... so less clearance then most gravel
etcetc
This may have been true a few years ago, but no one is selling a cross bike without water bottle mounts and less than 38-40c tire clearance anymore.

Most have adopted road bottom bracket drop rather than the 60-65mm euro range from the 90s-2000s.

There's really that much of a difference these days.

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Old 12-15-2019, 01:58 PM
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Briefly looking through various classified sites I can pick up a Ti frame set for a song as long as it takes cantilevers. I assume my spare road group would work?

I moved to Hill Country, TX. We have a lot of short, steep hills. I like to go fast with me being the only limiting factor. Rides are generally in the hour range. 32’s would be fine.

I also live close to a state park I have yet to see (Pace Bend Park) if anyone has been there. There are miles of trails, not sure how technical.

Any thoughts on sizing compared with road race geometry?
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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Short answer...yes.
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:21 PM
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Watching the Cross Nationals (Shout Out to Jim Brown, Hold Fast my friend) an noticed the substantial amount of pavement in the course. That leads me to my question. Other than marketing, why two separate genres?
Why not just ask Jim?
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:26 PM
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Any thoughts on sizing compared with road race geometry?[/QUOTE]



I stuck with basically the same sizing as my road bikes on both cx and gravel bikes.


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Old 12-15-2019, 02:39 PM
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I have 4 bikes I ride on a regular basis. One is a road bike. One is a gravel bike. One is a dual purpose bike.One is a let's just go for a cruise bike. I don't know which one is which when get on it.
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:45 PM
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Find a Poprad in your size.
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:28 PM
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Wonderful idea, I haven’t spoken to him since we were roommates in college. Time to reach out.

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Old 12-15-2019, 05:07 PM
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In my experience cross bikes ride a lot stiffer and tend towards being sharper-angled for durability and raciness' sake respectively. I'd rather spend all day on a gravel bike, personally.

And, unlike many gravel bikes, they will generally have room for portage. So weird to see Canyon's Inflite, all the modern carbon road bike design cues but no sloped top tube.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:37 PM
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The propad looks nice, can you explain why you recommended it?
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:49 PM
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On a crossbike I have, ridden gravel roads, done paved centuries, taken twisty downhills at over 50mph, ridden single-track. Basically everything except raced cross. My point is a cross bike is the most versatile bike you can get.
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