OT: Meanwhile, Vettel leaving Ferrari end of 2020

[buckfifty]

Originally Posted by tuxbailey

Hass or Williams, who goes first?

Haas, I'm not sure what is going on over there. After that whole Rich Energy fiasco and how the team is run, I can't see them as anything more than a backmarker team.

I am a bit biased and would rather have the legacy of Williams stay in F1. They are very willing to bring on a paid seat and they have a promising star in George Russell. Though with Hamilton not getting any younger, his call up to the works team might be soon...

[buckfifty]

Originally Posted by ddtn

McLaren looking real good with Lando and Ricciardo next year. I know it's only the first race of a weird season but you can tell when a team is in good form. Zack Brown poaching Andreas Seidl was a winning move – like Dietrich Mateschitz stealing Newey from McLaren back in the day. Gil de Ferren has also been working on the Indy project under the radar, supposedly Alonso is going for it with McLaren this year. I can see Alonso staying with McLaren in Indy, and must say that Zack Brown has been very impressive at this game.

Albon should and will get another season if he doesn't mess it up. He seems very competent. RBR not in a bad place.

Mercedes – my prediction is Lewis will retire at the end of 2021 and Merc will pull out. All the chatter didn't come from nowhere.

I think Vettel and Haas are both goners. Vettel really only liked the V8 cars, he's been a grade below ever since the switch to V6. If I were a 4-time champ I'd walk away for a bit, and seek a comeback in a year or two. Unless somebody ends up buying Haas and keeping the Ferrari link, offering Vettel a seat...

Ricciardo and Lando next year will be exciting to watch. Especially with them on Mercedes power plants

[Old School]

I sent this video to the guys at Haas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOM9d6vGeQ

[AZR3]

Originally Posted by buckfifty

Ricciardo and Lando next year will be exciting to watch. Especially with them on Mercedes power plants

The only issue they may have is the PU swap and integrating it successfully with their chassis. If they nail that I think they have a good shot at some wins.

I’m a Ferrari guy but the out look over the next few seasons doesn’t look promising and if I were Sainz I’d be crossing all my fingers and toes that Ferrari fix their PU issues.

[Bruce K]

Rumor was Redbull was considering bringing Vettel back.

I wouldn't shed a single tear if Vettel ends up with no F1 ride next year.

BK

[tuxbailey]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

Rumor was Redbull was considering bringing Vettel back.

I wouldn't shed a single tear if Vettel ends up with no F1 ride next year.

BK

I think that is a bad move. I think Albon is a perfect compliment to Max. If Vettel is having a fit with Leclec, imagining him dueling with Max.

[AZR3]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

Rumor was Redbull was considering bringing Vettel back.

I wouldn't shed a single tear if Vettel ends up with no F1 ride next year.

BK

I don’t think Red Bull want Vettel back, his best years are behind him (perhaps mentally as he’s still young and physically able to be at the top level) time to walk away and drive sports cars or live a quiet life with his family

[coreyaugustus]

I’d love to see Haas continue, but they’ve got to work more closely with Dallara on the aero kit or they’ll never get the tires to work for them. And the Ferrari PU ain’t helping the situation. Oh, and fire Grosjean. All he does is whine.

If McLaren can make that Merc PU fit the chassis, they’ll be very interesting indeed. Looking forward to seeing Danny Ric in orange.

[buckfifty]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

Rumor was Redbull was considering bringing Vettel back.

I wouldn't shed a single tear if Vettel ends up with no F1 ride next year.

BK

RBR doesn't seem to chase free agents like the other teams but are committed to their system of bringing up young drivers through Alpha Tauri

[Bruce K]

Haas is supposedly taking their operations to Indycar as they already are working with Dallara.

Grosjean is a joke - they should have dumped him long ago.

But they are committed to F1 until the new rules go into effect and with the delay, that means 1 more year.

It was a great idea that seemed to come close a few times but never quite got there.

BK

[ddtn]

Originally Posted by Old School

I sent this video to the guys at Haas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOM9d6vGeQ

LOL well done!

[ddtn]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

Haas is supposedly taking their operations to Indycar as they already are working with Dallara.

Grosjean is a joke - they should have dumped him long ago.

But they are committed to F1 until the new rules go into effect and with the delay, that means 1 more year.

It was a great idea that seemed to come close a few times but never quite got there.

BK

Haas leaving would have some sort of implications on F1 as whole now that Liberty is the owner. It appears Liberty's intention is to make F1 big in the US, but the only American team (very promising looking at one point) can't even survive the first 5-6 years.

The fact that Grosjean is still on the grid and Hulkenberg is looking for a job is beyond ridiculous, but then again that's the world we live in today.

[Bruce K]

And Vettel is openly lobbying to return to RBR per ESPN report.

BK

[AZR3]

I’ve seen a few articles saying Mateschitz has told Marko to bring Vettel back to Red Bull and other articles countering that so it seems it’s just speculation at this point. Honestly not sure why Vettel would want to come back, he’s not going to be 1 in the team, Max is their boy so he’d just be a “Rubens or a Massa”, score points and help the team but never get the glory. Plus Red Bull would have to pay him a hell of a lot more than Albon.

[Bruce K]

It’s the team where he had the most success.

Max has, so far, failed to deliver consistency or shown the emotional maturity to be a champion.

So Vettel might provide them a 1-2 punch similar to M-B?

BK