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Old 06-25-2019, 01:03 PM
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OT - surge protectors

So the amplifier blew and I brought it to the shop and the repair guy, who is a factory certified tech, diagnosed the problem as one internal fuse blown-- which he had never seen (on this model amp) in 25 years of servicing. So I suspect my surge protector is not protective. Electrician comes out and says that surge protectors have a limited life (who knew?) since Con Ed is allowed some fluctuation on the voltage coming in the house. And there might have been a few thunderstorms, etc. Bottom line is a ten-year-old surge protector needs replacing because they wear out. Anyone have recommendations, other than "the cheapest Amazon has", to protect a tube amp that is worth something?
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:30 PM
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Call an electrician and have whole house surge protection installed at the panel. best solution by far.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:46 PM
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For valuable electronics best to go with high quality UPS/Surge, but if need something inexpensive and quick-to-deploy with better than average protection ...

TrippLite Isobar (ISOBLOK2-0). Will run $25-$35 depending on where you buy it. Should be available through Amazon.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:49 PM
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Unplug it when you’re not using it. Thats what I do with my stuff.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:56 PM
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For valuable electronics best to go with high quality UPS/Surge, but if need something inexpensive and quick-to-deploy with better than average protection ...

TrippLite Isobar (ISOBLOK2-0). Will run $25-$35 depending on where you buy it. Should be available through Amazon.
Just picked up one of these about a month ago...
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Call an electrician and have whole house surge protection installed at the panel. best solution by far.
this, followed with one at the equipment itself as well.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:36 PM
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Get one that doesn't use MOVs. They are not only sacrificial when they're hit with a surge, but they're also the component that "wears out" [sic] under normal voltage conditions.

...eventually.
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:44 PM
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what is an MOV?
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:04 PM
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There's some good info here:

https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-surge-protector/

The recommend a Tripp Lite, but if you want to go whole-hog they say a Furman Powerstation 8 ($145) is the way to go.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:23 PM
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if you want to go whole-hog they say a Furman Powerstation 8 ($145) is the way to go.
My understanding is these are a good product and a very good value.

A power conditioner with surge suppression which is a good choice when it comes to an amp of any kind. Surge suppression systems alone will generally add noise to your system. A conditioner should filter low level noise and protect the equipment.

I run Shunyata power conditioners so I have clearly bought in to the value of the product type. They have made a difference in my system and the protection is important for all my tubes.
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:48 PM
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Also a good idea to use one on you cable, satellite or antenna and telephone/DSL line.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:14 PM
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what is an MOV?
Metal-Oxide Varistor
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:20 PM
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what is an MOV?
Metal Oxide Varistor.

The two specs you should be interested in when purchasing a surge protector are:

Response Time-faster is better.

The number of Joules the unit is rated to handle-more is better.

The fuse in your amp protected your amp, so I wouldn't sweat it. You may want to ask your repair shop technician if they can relocate the fuseholder so the fuse would be user-replaceable.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:20 PM
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what is an MOV?
Metal Oxide Varistor.

The two specs you should be interested in when purchasing a surge protector are:

Response Time-faster is better.

The number of Joules the unit is rated to handle-more is better.

The fuse in your amp protected your amp, so I wouldn't sweat it. You may want to ask your repair shop technician if they can relocate the fuseholder so the fuse would be user-replaceable.

What kind of amp are you talking about; a stereo or musical instrument amp?
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Old 06-26-2019, 10:00 AM
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Many thanks guys. Great info here, as always. And I learned a new term: metal oxide varistor. Is it made of drillium?
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