Vamoots RSL vs Litespeed T1SL

[grnrcr]

Two top end Ti race bikes but how similar or different do they ride in real life? I imagine the Litespeed is probably a good 2-300 grams lighter. Stiffness? Comfort?

[Matthew]

The consensus on this forum will be go Moots hands down. I agree as I have two Moots. Not an RSL though. But is there a way you could test ride both or at least one? Probably the only real way to get a fair judgement. But for build quality and all around awesome people/company I suggest going with a Moots.

[Lanternrouge]

You might also want to check out a Lynskey. A friend who has owned an absurd number of high end bikes and is a big fan of Ti got one from their eBay store and has been really happy with it.

[grnrcr]

Originally Posted by Matthew

The consensus on this forum will be go Moots hands down. I agree as I have two Moots. Not an RSL though. But is there a way you could test ride both or at least one? Probably the only real way to get a fair judgement. But for build quality and all around awesome people/company I suggest going with a Moots.

I’ve briefly ridden a RSL but not a T1SL. Agree Moots def has the stronger “brand” of the two. But T1SL has that “modern” Ti thing which is intriguing.


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[beeatnik]

The choice is between something of high quality elegance and something modern. If one wants modern, the S-Works Tarmac Sl6 (or F10 or BMC Teammachine or...) is the answer.

Get the RSL. The Litespeeds are only preferred by guys who have owned new series Litespeeds. Hi Ryan!

[parco]

Have ridden both. I thought the ride quality of the Moots was better. At this level you're really splitting hairs but I also thought the quality of the welds on the Moots was much better.

[peanutgallery]

If you want a Litespeed, get them while you can. I get the feeling that they are struggling on struggle street. What is left of the ti market has kinda left them behind

[mcteague]

Moots! Why we even discussing this?

Tim

[dbnm]

I own a 2015 Vamoots RSL. It's a 54cm and the frame weighs about 1150g. I have a hard time thinking the Litespeed is under 900g.

The Moots has huge name recognition and resale value. If that matters.

[SuperColnago]

I have a 2014 MOOTS RSL, don’t know anything about the Litespeed T1SL, where are they made?

[dbnm]

On the Litespeed website, the T1SL Disc with Ultegra Di2 is $8400 and Dura Ace Di2 is $14,900. ***?

Oh, and they say "Lightest weight titanium frame on the market (1,000 grams for rim brake version & 1,175 grams for disc version)" but don't mention what size this is for.

The Moots Vamoots RSL (disc) with Dura Ace Di2 is $11,600.

[grnrcr]

Originally Posted by dbnm

I own a 2015 Vamoots RSL. It's a 54cm and the frame weighs about 1150g. I have a hard time thinking the Litespeed is under 900g.



The Moots has huge name recognition and resale value. If that matters.

Resale value is a great point. I have a hard time hanging on to a bike for more than a year or two. Never owned a Ti bike though.

[maverick_1]

Have the same thoughts...
Moots RSL or T1SL.

And should we also include Bixxis Pathos (Ti) into the equation?
Ryun seems to like his Bixxis Prima, not sure about Pathos though.
Had the De Rosa Titanio 3.25 previously, nice and smooth ride but would love for a stiffer rear end.


Cheers

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by dbnm

On the Litespeed website, the T1SL Disc with Ultegra Di2 is $8400 and Dura Ace Di2 is $14,900. ***?

Oh, and they say "Lightest weight titanium frame on the market (1,000 grams for rim brake version & 1,175 grams for disc version)" but don't mention what size this is for.

The Moots Vamoots RSL (disc) with Dura Ace Di2 is $11,600.

What was the Litespeed model that was advertised as 'uber light'...I had one for repair and the front der clamp crimped the seat tube..

Get the Moots..they 'do one thing and do it well'..no marketing whizbangery.

[Ralph]

Ive been looking, studying, and admiring all the Ti Frames I see on my rides. And I see all the brands mentioned on here.

To me.....maybe... some brands are in a class by them selves....and are priced for that.


But if you just want a nice Ti frame.....and I mean nice......the Motobecane Ti frames on Bikesdirect.com made by Ora Engineering LTD in Taiwan are as nice as any (and maybe nicer) popular priced Ti frame I have seen. Especially if price is considered. I imagine if you have an issue with the frame, you ship back to their US site......that's something I would want to clear up before buying. But the frame I looked over was a recent buy, and looked as nice as any. Of course.....you can't see inside the welds out on the roads.