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Old 09-23-2021, 01:35 PM
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Concours de Machines 2021 thread - bikepacking + rinko edition

Let's share the bikes as the reporting starts rolling in on Concours de Machines 2021?

Rules this year: https://www.associationartisansducyc...ncours-2020-en

* ride day and night on all type of terrain (road, dual and single tracks), including hilly environment (stairs, rocks, dirt, roots, scree…) among the mountains with your friends

* be compacted easily to facilitate a car-free arrival on site, that is to say, fit the french train policy (SNCF) : the bike must fit in a 1200mm long and 900mm high suitcase or bag, and minimise the width.

Bikepacking currently only has coverage of PechTregon Cycles' offering, but this in itself is already mindblowing: rinko-able + fuel canister storage in the downtube + octopus fork for maximizing storage. Can't wait to see the other bikes as they share it.

(Previous 2019 bikes for PBP for anyone who hasn't seen them)
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Old 09-23-2021, 01:50 PM
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I really like the way that fork looks, but I wouldn't want to ride it for very far.

I missed the fact this thing had a headshock when I saw it at first.

The taillight looks like it might possibly be in the worst possible location.
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Old 09-23-2021, 02:10 PM
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Wow what a departure from rando type bikes... I guess it's the spirit of the moment with the bike packing theme and you gotta have your finger on the pulse. A lot of thought and craft.

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Old 09-23-2021, 02:17 PM
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Another entry
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Old 09-23-2021, 02:25 PM
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IMO, the requirements are really tough this year and demand a lot of ingenuity from the participants. I have three different bikes that would meet most of these requirements with some modification, but for sure none that would meet all of them. I look forward to seeing the other entries.

I wonder what the "waste management" requirement entails? A shovel?
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Old 09-23-2021, 03:54 PM
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That website has some really beautiful bikes!
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Old 09-24-2021, 01:25 PM
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yikes, that pechtregon sets the bar preetty damn high.
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Old 09-24-2021, 03:37 PM
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That Pechtregon is pretty amazing. I'd like to see how that stove works. Not sure about that headshock though. It seems like it'd be real difficult to service.
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Old 09-24-2021, 03:48 PM
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That is some amazing metalworking and engineering. The fork looks neat, but also dumb. Not always a bad thing, but it does look impractical to service and not really strong - which would be a real barrier to riding all day/all night self supported.
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Old 09-24-2021, 07:00 PM
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That bike is incredible, I need to read up more on the CdeM as I have only ever really looked at photos. I assume it's straight up design with little care for bringing any new solutions to a wider market or use?

Again just incredible. My only question (for now) or two is the Rinko-able? Is that a set of dimensions needed to meet French train portability? I've seen Rando bikes pack similarly, right?

I'm also curious about the two QR's used at the BB and wonder about the long term usage and need beyond it being really slick and cool but why not a couple SS bolts given the tools onboard? I feel like those QR's might be a PITA to manage with cold and wet fingers.

Chapeau, as they say!
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Old 09-25-2021, 07:57 AM
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The requirements are given in the link above. The requirements are never particularly clear, although this year they listed a batch of requirements that a bike must have or face immediate elimination.

Rinko usually means take off the rear half of the fender and the fork. I think to get a bike to French train size requirements, you just have to take off the wheels. I know on amtrack the requirements for size would allow a bike with the wheels off, but then they say it has to be a folding bike, which stops a lot of people. I have always thought Rinko should work on Amtrack, because of taking off the fork.
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Old 09-25-2021, 08:45 AM
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The requirements are given in the link above. The requirements are never particularly clear, although this year they listed a batch of requirements that a bike must have or face immediate elimination.

Rinko usually means take off the rear half of the fender and the fork. I think to get a bike to French train size requirements, you just have to take off the wheels. I know on amtrack the requirements for size would allow a bike with the wheels off, but then they say it has to be a folding bike, which stops a lot of people. I have always thought Rinko should work on Amtrack, because of taking off the fork.
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You can roll your bike on Amtrak train lines that accept bikes. The bike does not need to fold or be contained.
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Old 09-25-2021, 02:57 PM
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The Amtrak route near me doesn't take bikes. However, all trains will take a folding bike. The rules are pretty clear that bikes must fold. They must be sponsored by Brompton or some company like that. Because 34/15/48 is plenty of space for a bike with no wheels. I feel like if you show up with a bike in an orucase, you not be challenged.

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Folding bicycles under the dimensions of 34" x 15" x 48" (860 x 380 x 1120 mm) will be allowed onboard all trains in lieu of a piece of baggage.

Only certain passenger cars can accommodate folding bicycles as carry-on baggage, otherwise they must be checked.

Only true folding bicycles (bicycles specifically designed to fold up into a compact assembly) are acceptable. Generally, these bikes have frame latches allowing the frame to be collapsed, and small wheels. Regular bikes of any size, with or without wheels, are not considered folding bikes, and may not be stored as folding bikes aboard trains.
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Old 09-26-2021, 06:18 AM
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The Amtrak route near me doesn't take bikes. However, all trains will take a folding bike. The rules are pretty clear that bikes must fold. They must be sponsored by Brompton or some company like that. Because 34/15/48 is plenty of space for a bike with no wheels. I feel like if you show up with a bike in an orucase, you not be challenged.
Right you are.
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