Irrational desire to ride a Pinarello Dogma

[Clean39T]

I have an irrational desire to ride a Pinarello Dogma - 65.1, F8, F10..

57.5 or 59.5

Don't know why - just stumbled on a number of listings and reviews lately - or maybe it's KarlC's InGamba F8 is speaking to me. Could probably blame Lionel too.

I don't have room for one. I'm really picky about used carbon. And I'm not even sure I like the look of them.

But everyone says the handling and ride is the best of the best. So of course I'm intrigued.

That's all.

The white one below with a 80th Annie SR group and Boras would be acceptable.

[R3awak3n]

Makes 2 of us. I have always wanted to try one. I actually like how they look, they look terrible but in a good way and different from everthing else out there. And in the carbon world most bike really look the same. I bet the bike rides great, probably stiff and fast

[charliedid]

Practical joke on wheels.

[KonaSS]

I would be interested to ride one, but oooooffff, they look strange, especially in larger sizes, and I am a carbon race bike and modern frame kinda guy.

[one60]

Since you are in PDX area, why not check in with Elemental Cycles in Redmond and ask if they have a demo in your size? IIRC, they charge $100 for an 24 hour rental. You could even bring along your own saddle and wheelset to help with the comparison?

[saab2000]

I don't think this is irrational at all.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by one60

Since you are in PDX area, why not check in with Elemental Cycles in Redmond and ask if they have a demo in your size? IIRC, they charge $100 for an 24 hour rental. You could even bring along your own saddle and wheelset to help with the comparison?

Looks like they have a 57.5 F8 to demo - but it's 3 hrs from me..

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[fa63]

Originally Posted by one60

Since you are in PDX area, why not check in with Elemental Cycles in Redmond and ask if they have a demo in your size? IIRC, they charge $100 for an 24 hour rental. You could even bring along your own saddle and wheelset to help with the comparison?

I rented a Colnago C60 from Element Cycles back when the C60 was still new and I happened to be in Redmond for business. 60 miles into a 65 mile test ride, I did something stupid and found myself on the ground. My first reaction of course was to make sure the bike was OK, and luckily it was, other than some ripped bar tape (they had taken a rather large deposit on my credit card for the rental). I didn't realize until I noticed people staring at me that my knee was swollen like a grapefruit and bleeding profusely...

I was going to rent a Pinarello F8 the next day but the incident spooked me too much so I rented something cheap instead :-)

[Mr. Pink]

Here's a cool place to try one.

https://www.gardabikehotel.com/en/pi...o-bike-rentals

[Tickdoc]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

Here's a cool place to try one.

https://www.gardabikehotel.com/en/pi...o-bike-rentals

I like this idea. It makes your irrational idea sensical.

[Matthew]

It looks like it's melting. Or ripples of water. But I'd love to throw a leg over one to check it out.

[jemdet]

A 56 cm F10 has more or less parallel 73s with 43mm of rake and 72mm of BB drop. For all the waviness, that's a road bike's road bike.

[SoCalSteve]

I guess I need to weigh in here...

Never wanted to try one as I thought they were weird looking and made in the Far East and all that. Until I saw a used F8 in my size for super cheap on eBay. Was still skeptical, but bought it, built it, rode it and absolutely loved it. I mean, it just worked!

Fit like a glove, super comfy, handles great and just overall amazingly well built. And, this is crazy as I’m not even close to being a weight weenie. Without even trying, it built up to be 16lbs with pedals. This is for a size 59.5.

So, of course I sold it!!!

And then I bought a Dogma K10-S. Same geometry, same high quality with an adjustable soft tail rear suspension, flat mount disc brakes and can handle 28’s easily.

Sold off all my rim brake bikes except my beloved Ottrott. Waiting on a custom No22 disc brake Ti bike.

And....I’m done!!!!!!

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by SoCalSteve

I guess I need to weigh in here...



Never wanted to try one as I thought they were weird looking and made in the Far East and all that. Until I saw a used F8 in my size for super cheap on eBay. Was still skeptical, but bought it, built it, rode it and absolutely loved it. I mean, it just worked!



Fit like a glove, super comfy, handles great and just overall amazingly well built. And, this is crazy as I’m not even close to being a weight weenie. Without even trying, it built up to be 16lbs with pedals. This is for a size 59.5.



So, of course I sold it!!!



And then I bought a Dogma K10-S. Same geometry, same high quality with an adjustable soft tail rear suspension, flat mount disc brakes and can handle 28’s easily.



Sold off all my rim brake bikes except my beloved Ottrott. Waiting on a custom No22 disc brake Ti bike.



And....I’m done!!!!!!

So was the F8 more performance oriented than you were looking for? Or why the move to the K10?

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[nmrt]

i will be the lone dissenter here. many years ago, i took the dogma 65.1 for an extended test ride (about 1.5 hrs). i absolutely hated it. having never ridden a carbon bike then, the dogma was an accurate testimony to everything bad that i had read about carbon bikes -- dead feeling, stiff, and "passionless". hmmm....i thought. thanks goodness that i do not own a carbon bike.

but then after returning the dogma, i took a bmc slr 01 team machine out for the test ride. it was one of those bike days in boulder where many manufacturers come and let you test ride their bike. suffice to say, the bmc was amazing compared to the dogma. i even considered selling my seven axiom slx to get the bmc.

since that day dogma ceased to exist as a bike in my mind.