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Old 06-22-2020, 09:42 AM
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If you were building a “go fast” metal road bike...

That could keep pace on a fast(er) group ride over terrain varying from smooth asphalt to really crappy roads with lots of climbing and descending ...

A) what material would you choose? Steel or Ti?
B) what tire width?
C) what gearing?
D) rim or discs?

My version of that question will be

A) a double oversized Columbus Spirit frame
B) 30c
C) 50/34 in front and a 9-36 in back
D) discs

I realize that “D” might engender all kinds of rehashed arguments, but I’m just interested in people’s opinions, not their opinions about other people’s choices. That gets kind of tired.
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Old 06-22-2020, 09:46 AM
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i would copy this:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...hlight=bingham
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Old 06-22-2020, 09:59 AM
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I think this might be my pick: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBtzIs7A..._web_copy_link

Beautiful and looks fast n light and looks like a joy to ride.

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Old 06-22-2020, 10:18 AM
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I am flattered. Thank you!

That's the intent of my Built...a proper go-fast road bike with some versatility because it is my only road bike.
To that end, a 52 or 50T gives a selection of high-enough paceline gears while an 11-32 accesses the lower range. For wheels, I have a set of mid-depth wheels with 27s for the fast rides and a set of low-profile rims with plump FMB 30s for all other paved riding.

That the frame is stiff in the right places but comfortable overall was a priority that led me to the specific builder.
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:21 AM
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I'd love to start with the Cinelli Nemo Tig that for sale in the Classifieds and build a go-fast machine.
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:27 AM
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How about this...

Caad 10 or 12 rim brake frame
Ultegra
Hollowgram cranks
Zondas with 25c gp5000
Carbon post bars stem
36/52 and 11-32

You said you wanted to go fast right? Don’t sabotage yourself with a heavy or flexy frame imo.
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Old 06-23-2020, 01:35 AM
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I'd love to start with the Cinelli Nemo Tig that for sale in the Classifieds and build a go-fast machine.
Agree — I think I’d pick the same Nemo Tig frame I ride, and build it with Record and some Bora WTOs instead of Dura Ace.
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:37 AM
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I keep up on fast group rides with my 1985 Colnago. So I'd say there are gazillion bikes really.

So I can honestly say the go fast part of the equation is an easy part, as it is mostly up to your physiology really.

The fun starts, you can pretty much steer your purchase/build lust into baller territory and mean looks.

But a truly 'go fast' capable machine may wait for you to have the chutzbah to actually use it to it's potential.

Buying used even better, as rim brake road go fast machines are deal city out there with ALL Road and Gravel taking market share currently.

I have a great All Road Strong Custom, and a 650b Lynskey Gravel Mongrel. Fast group ride, 1985 Colnago SLX pulled from the quiver. 11s Chorus resto-mod and 404s, granted.

But IMO, until you are fit enough to ride with 9CM+ of drop and setback a superdiduper go fast machine probably is not going to be a pleasant experience to roll for long.

So careful what you wish for.


>>I guess I am less clear on the line of demarcation for go fast road and just how much bumpy cruddy blasting desired to cover. That could sway direction an awful lot in itself.
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:50 AM
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If fast is the main goal:
Allez sprint
Ee brakes
25mm tires
53/39 11-29 Record 12 (52/36 if really hilly)

Realistically, this is fast enough (but I’m not)


32mm tires (will probably drop down to 30 next time)
52/36 11-29 (second wheelset with 11-34)

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Old 06-22-2020, 11:36 AM
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A) titanium
B) 30c
C) 46-33 up front and 10-36 in the rear (SRAM Force AXS)
D) disc


I would have Alchemy or Mosaic make it and go full on weightweenie.
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Old 06-22-2020, 09:05 PM
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A) titanium
B) 30c
C) 46-33 up front and 10-36 in the rear (SRAM Force AXS)
D) disc


I would have EDIT: Alliance make it and go full on weightweenie.
I was contemplating just this. Switched at the last moment to the gravel bike.
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:21 PM
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If I was going to build a new racing bike today, I would get:

Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel
28c tires is fine. I don't need tubeless, since I really can't tell you when my last flat was and THAT was because I rode a worn out tire too long.
33/50 WiFli eTap 11-34 if I could find it.
Disc brakes, but cable actuated
Rolf wheels designed for my weight
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:28 PM
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If I was going to build a new racing bike today, I would get:

Indy Fab Ti Crown Jewel
33/50 WiFli eTap 11-34 if I could find it.
Disc brakes, but cable actuated
Rolf wheels designed for my weight
Curious, why cable disc brakes? Weight?
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:35 PM
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Curious, why cable disc brakes? Weight?
So you can use Juin Tech GT 4piston with finned rotors AND finned pads
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:47 PM
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Like someone mentioned, how fast is fast?

Around here you just need a nice low position that is comfortable for extended periods in the drop.
Id chose steel with 25mm tires and rim brakes. For all out efforts, its hard to beat electronic shifting. When Im cross eyed, it is nice to not think about shifting at all. it just works

If I lived anywhere else with climbing Im guessing something along the lines of a 52/36

for now, this is the bike I use for our tuesday night worlds and weekend crits
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