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Those remind me of Bruce Gordon's work, and I mean that as a high compliment.
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Wow, that is beautiful Dave. While symmetry is platonically pleasant to the eye (like most bikes), a dash of asymmetry is what makes it interesting. I recall seeing some Black Cat bilaminate lugs that were kinda weird and absolutely beautiful in an art deco way. Are there any structural implications to asymmetry in lugs? Will one side be stressed more than the other is a lug is cut on a bias? This blows wind up my skirt for sure! I can see these tubes and lugs painted glossy white with gold lining and decals and some 700x48mm tires - all deeply soaked in mud ![]() |
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The very small relief I made is so structurally insignificant as to not be there. So the answer in this case is no. On the other hand one could cut the lugs so much that there could be issues. So it's not to say that the lug shape doesn't matter but it really only matters when you take it to extremes.....and these lugs are far from extreme. It's important to remember that the real core strength with a lugged joint comes from the two tubes meeting each other inside and having the filler flow between the them. This is what holds the tubes together. The lug adds surface area for the filler to attach to and a safety margin and its not the primary structure. Make sense? dave |
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Thanks for that explanation. Yes, I am no framebuilder (understatement of my life) but I imagined that the lug design is not where the strength is derived from. When seeing this impossibly delicate pointed lugs, one must assume that theyre there mostly for their beauty and elegance, while the fitting of the tube into the lug socket is where the strength comes from.
Those are just right for being ornate. Those ones that Ive seen of old timey Bayliss frames seem more like artwork than rideable bikes, cool as they are. So, do you just pack those lugs away and one day some lug-lover will ask for something unusual and you coyly say ' why yes, I have something that might interest you' as you reach into your desk drawer??? That would be fun fo both you and the client when the stars align. Quote:
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Another bike for us to add to a wished share list. Please purchase and ride for 5-6 years so I can then buy from you .
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We'll see. dave |
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Are the lugs stainless/could they be built into an Onesto?
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Thanks for the question - no they aren't stainless. I originally wanted to go stainless on these but the blanks used as a starting point aren't available in stainless.
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So, could they be used anyway with Onesto tubing? Paint the lugs and leave the rest Onesto? That might be a different approach. Note that I dropped you a line the other day regarding an Onesto.....
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I don't know that I got your note....did I respond? dave |
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I re-sent the email. Hopefully it goes through this time.
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Got it - replied. dave |
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Dave, could you elaborate on this a little. I recall a previous conversation where you didn't recommend painting non stainless lugs for use on an Onesto.
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