A few questions about Campagnolo 12 speed groupsets

[vincenz]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Also incorrect. I know, because I am laughing.



i dont discriminate.

i use shimano often as well:

That actually looks pretty good, not even tongue in cheek.

They should trickle that down to their groupsets.

[tomato coupe]

Originally Posted by vincenz

Fixed that for you.

Could be.

[donevwil]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

is the White Industries R30 a candidate? I think the black one would look good with a campy group and comes in 180.

Q is a little higher @ 157.2, is that too much?

Unfortunately, according to my knees, about 9.8mm too much.

Honestly, WI sq taper is a legit option (I have two sets already) if the rings prove 12 spd compatible, but I'm specifically thinking of a travel bike application for which I prefer modern axle tech.

[Dave]

The new Chorus 12 gets a little downgrade with the black aluminum shift levers, but they feel and work great. Chorus 12 is a big step up from ultegra, IMO. Of course it costs more, but I felt like $1060 for Chorus 12 was money well spent. The 48/32 and 11-34 are perfect for the terrain I ride.

[robertbb]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

If I were Campagnolo, I would be tempted to do the following refresh this year:

Potenza:
Give it the carbon crank and brake blades left over from chorus 11. Change the logos to match Centaur. Ditch the two tone black for gloss black.

Centaur:
Change the crankset to the same BCD as chorus 12 and offer a subcompact. Work with tektro (as they have in the past) to make a sprye variant that is optimized for Campagnolo levers. Offer them in silver.

This would give them two ranges.

Race/road
Super record EPS (12)
Super record (12 ultra shift)
Record (12 ultra shift)
Potenza (11 power shift)

All road/gravel
Chorus (12 ultra shift)
Centaur (11 power shift)

This could give them some defined groups that can share SKUs for small parts like they have e historically done without creating a lot of new part numbers.

The question is, where does their (rumoured) 1x groupset fit in?

I notice that on the Campy site, Super Record and Record are shown as "12 speed" while Chorus is shown as 12x2 speed.

https://www.campagnolo.com/AU/en/Gro...icycles?f=1000

Seems to suggest there is a 12x1 speed on its way at Chorus level. Lines up with the design of that sub-compact crank - while I havn't seen it in the flesh, those bolt holes look like they may support a 1x chanring.

I'm very curious to know what happens to Potenza since Chorus has already been "downgraded" to being an alloy group (except the crank). Does Potenza get a refresh and stay 11 speed..?

[thirdgenbird]

the 1x group could be a halo product of the all road/gravel category. Use the chorus name, a new one, or dig up one from history.

I could see potenza staying 11 but getting some upgrades. Basically make it a similar tier to a Chorus but for a different purpose. I don’t see why potenza couldn’t get some carbon bits. Lighter and gearing options suitable for more traditional road riding. Keep the 53/39 crankset option. Offset cost by keeping it powershift and 11 speed. Potenza and chorus could end up at a similar price but have different markets. Similar to ultegra and GRX.

[clarendon]

Originally Posted by cgolvin

Yes, that is exactly what I bought so that I could have an extra to carry in my saddle bag.

Just for clarity: I have Chorus 12 but given the compatibility across groups assume it will work fine with SR12.

Just an update that the Eagle 12sp Powerlink is working fine on SR 12 (so far...). Pretty straightforward to install. Thanks all for your advice.

[thirdgenbird]

Done.

Road trim pictured.

I’ve got a second wheelset with Gravel King EXT tires and an 11-34

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

Done.

Road trim pictured.

I’ve got a second wheelset with Gravel King EXT tires and an 11-34

That's hot looking!!! Always loved me a Yeti.

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

That's hot looking!!! Always loved me a Yeti.

Thanks! And thank you for helping to get parts in this crazy time.

The chorus group looks and feels like a perfect match for the frame. I may not get a great chance to really put it to the test until the weekend, but my initial short ride was great. It’s a good thing. This is intended to get over 90% of my miles.

[zap]

Enjoy the ride. Chorus 12 on our travel tandem is a joy......albiet with an Ultegra front derailleur as the tandem chainline is just beyond the Chorus front derailleur's capacity.

[ciclista_tifoso]

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[With the disclaimer that this is all subjective]

For those of you that switched from Shimano/SRAM to Campy, did it take time to adjust to the location/positioning of the thumb shifters?

I'm strongly considering Chorus 12 on my next bike (an "all terrain" bike, so there'll be no racing going on), but have only ridden Ultegra on road bikes to this point -- no complaints, always reliable. I plan to test ride a campy setup in the weeks ahead, but interested in other perspectives on this. The thumb shifters appear to be placed to avoid 'getting in the way' when not shifting, but within reach to minimize the need to stretch much.

Ultimately it's just a matter of getting out there and testing the shifters myself, of course.

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by robertbb

The question is, where does their (rumoured) 1x groupset fit in?

I notice that on the Campy site, Super Record and Record are shown as "12 speed" while Chorus is shown as 12x2 speed.

https://www.campagnolo.com/AU/en/Gro...icycles?f=1000

Seems to suggest there is a 12x1 speed on its way at Chorus level. Lines up with the design of that sub-compact crank - while I havn't seen it in the flesh, those bolt holes look like they may support a 1x chanring.

I'm very curious to know what happens to Potenza since Chorus has already been "downgraded" to being an alloy group (except the crank). Does Potenza get a refresh and stay 11 speed..?

It's going to be 1x13 by all rumors.

[duff_duffy]

I never thought I’d see the day where I like that Thomson setback post...but today is that day!

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

Done.

Road trim pictured.

I’ve got a second wheelset with Gravel King EXT tires and an 11-34

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by duff_duffy

I never thought I’d see the day where I like that Thomson setback post...but today is that day!

Thanks!

I am pretty confident it’s the only seatpost for the build.