A few questions about Campagnolo 12 speed groupsets

[lavi]

Originally Posted by clarendon

When you say less than zero, do you mean you had no problems?

Yes, no issues with the SRAM Eagle 12s quick link. No shifting issues. No extra sound.

[Dave]

Those who wax nearly always use a quick link. I don't dip my chains in hot wax. I use my own homemade wax lube. I still take my chain off about every 500 miles for and change to a different chain in my rotation. Every chain gets a thorough cleaning and new lube, before being stored, awaiting its next use.

I relube about every 125 miles. I use the SRAM eagle 12 link.

[parallelfish]

Originally Posted by clarendon

In other words, are we stuck with cleaning the chain on the bike? What about people who use wax?

Cheers

I have been using YBN 12 speed links without issue.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by bfd

Thanks! The major difference between 11-32 and 12-32 in the 11 speed cassette is you get a 16t instead of the 11t. Since I’m an old fat guy, the 16t is much more useful for me. For 12 speed, I would prefer an 18t over the 11t as i just can’t push that big a gear. But if cassettes starting with 11t is all Campy offers for 12 speed, then I’ll stick with 11 speed. Of course, YMMV!

Good Luck!

With 12 speed you get a straight block up to the 17. When a 48/32 is used, all gear ratios change. A 48/16 is 3/1.

Rather than wanting a 16, you need to know what gear ratio you covet so dearly.

[cgolvin]

Originally Posted by lavi

Yes, no issues with the SRAM Eagle 12s quick link. No shifting issues. No extra sound.

Ditto, works great

[clarendon]

Originally Posted by cgolvin

Ditto, works great

OK great. So what I need is this? To be clear use would be for campy SR12

https://www.amazon.com/SRAM-Eagle-Po.../dp/B077CVR7CV

[cgolvin]

Originally Posted by clarendon

OK great. So what I need is this? To be clear use would be for campy SR12

https://www.amazon.com/SRAM-Eagle-Po.../dp/B077CVR7CV

Yes, that is exactly what I bought so that I could have an extra to carry in my saddle bag.

Just for clarity: I have Chorus 12 but given the compatibility across groups assume it will work fine with SR12.

[thirdgenbird]

How about chain tool recommendations that are cheaper than the Campagnolo one (even though am tempted to add one next to my 10spd tool)

Edit:
Actually, is the 11spd tool backwards compatible? Is so, I may have to sell the 10spd to help fund the upgrade.

[acorn_user]

I had my LBS install the chain and they used a KMC quick link (which I could have done at home, doh!). Best thing is that they come as a 2 pack, so now I have a spare

[robertbb]

Originally Posted by Dave

With 12 speed you get a straight block up to the 17. When a 48/32 is used, all gear ratios change. A 48/16 is 3/1.

Rather than wanting a 16, you need to know what gear ratio you covet so dearly.

With 11sp Campy you also get a straight block up to the 17. It's just that doing so starts at 12.

The difference between a 12-29 11sp cassette and an 11-29 cassette in 12sp is the 11t cog.

The 11t is next to useless for most people even with a subcompact. I wish one option with 12sp would be the simple addition of a 32 to the existing 11sp 12-29

[Dave]

A 48/11 is a little lower gear ratio than a 53/12.

[gfk_velo]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

How about chain tool recommendations that are cheaper than the Campagnolo one (even though am tempted to add one next to my 10spd tool)

Edit:
Actually, is the 11spd tool backwards compatible? Is so, I may have to sell the 10spd to help fund the upgrade.

Yes, it is.
The 11s tool is the recommended unit for joining the 12s chain.
See the technical information at www.campagnolo.com

[gfk_velo]

Originally Posted by acorn_user

I had my LBS install the chain and they used a KMC quick link (which I could have done at home, doh!). Best thing is that they come as a 2 pack, so now I have a spare

Did they tell you that in doing so they had just voided your warranty?

[gfk_velo]

Originally Posted by bfd

Campy currently offers a Chorus 12-29 and Centaur 12-32 cassettes for 11 speed. Since I don’t need an 11t cog, is Campy planning on offering a 12-32 or even 12-34 cassettes for 12 speed?! Thanks!

No.
Campagnolo's stated policy so far has been to offer 11-29, 11-32 and now 11-34 only. No projected provision of a 12-up cassette or of a smaller bottom sprocket.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

How about chain tool recommendations that are cheaper than the Campagnolo one (even though am tempted to add one next to my 10spd tool)

Edit:
Actually, is the 11spd tool backwards compatible? Is so, I may have to sell the 10spd to help fund the upgrade.

DO IT, buy one, keep the 10s one....plus Campag 10s chain tools are kinda old news since everything Campag is now 11s or 12s...

These are superior tools..last many lifetimes..