Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 07-20-2015, 09:21 AM
farmersam farmersam is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Mount Savage, MD
Posts: 44
Is anyone grinding for espresso on these? I'm using a POS burr grinder, then putting it in a standard Braum grinder to make it espresso like. I need to upgrade.

I have an older La Pavoni that my Mom stole at an auction for $5. I told her she never had to buy me anything for Christmas ever again (but she didn't listen).
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-20-2015, 10:16 AM
William's Avatar
William William is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Herding nomads won't
Posts: 30,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmersam View Post
Is anyone grinding for espresso on these? I'm using a POS burr grinder, then putting it in a standard Braum grinder to make it espresso like. I need to upgrade.

I have an older La Pavoni that my Mom stole at an auction for $5. I told her she never had to buy me anything for Christmas ever again (but she didn't listen).
We picked up the Breville Smart Grinder about two weeks ago and espresso is all I do...so far it's working great. If you watch the review link I posted on the last page you'll see them test it to see if it will grind fine enough for one of their high end machines. We got a great price on it so it was worth checking out. So far, I'm liking it.







William
__________________
Custom Frame Builders List
Support our vendors!
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-20-2015, 11:28 AM
jemoryl jemoryl is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,267
Quote:
Originally Posted by William View Post
We picked up the Breville Smart Grinder about two weeks ago and espresso is all I do...so far it's working great. If you watch the review link I posted on the last page you'll see them test it to see if it will grind fine enough for one of their high end machines. We got a great price on it so it was worth checking out. So far, I'm liking it.







William
Have Breville upped the ante on their machines? A few years ago when I bought my stuff they mainly made consumer grade machines with pressurized portafilters, which can create 'crema' on an espresso even with a mediocre grinder.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-20-2015, 11:32 AM
Idris Icabod Idris Icabod is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmersam View Post
Is anyone grinding for espresso on these? I'm using a POS burr grinder, then putting it in a standard Braum grinder to make it espresso like. I need to upgrade.

I have an older La Pavoni that my Mom stole at an auction for $5. I told her she never had to buy me anything for Christmas ever again (but she didn't listen).
We have a Mazzer mini that is used only for espresso. Once set it has been great, very adjustable so took a bit of faffing to set grind initially. Looks nice in the kitchen.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-20-2015, 11:53 AM
andrew+ andrew+ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 166
Ex-barista of 5 years here.

+1 on Baratza. Whatever they're calling the model below the Vario (Encore?) is what you want. They're fantastic machines for the price. They'll work fine for espresso too, but if you make a lot of it and know what you're doing, the Vario might be worth it.

If you're totally serious/crazy about espresso at home, go with a Mazzer Super Jolly or Major.

Last edited by andrew+; 07-20-2015 at 12:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-20-2015, 11:59 AM
andrew+ andrew+ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 166
Quote:
Originally Posted by jemoryl View Post
Have Breville upped the ante on their machines? A few years ago when I bought my stuff they mainly made consumer grade machines with pressurized portafilters, which can create 'crema' on an espresso even with a mediocre grinder.
Some people on espresso forums have been pretty jazzed about the Breville dual boiler machine that came out a few years back. It's a "real" machine for fairly cheap. No pressurized portafilter nonsense. Durability/longevity seemed like they may be an issue.

home-barista and coffeegeek are great resources for this stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-20-2015, 12:42 PM
maxdog maxdog is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sharon Springs NY
Posts: 737
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmersam View Post
Is anyone grinding for espresso on these? I'm using a POS burr grinder, then putting it in a standard Braum grinder to make it espresso like. I need to upgrade.

I have an older La Pavoni that my Mom stole at an auction for $5. I told her she never had to buy me anything for Christmas ever again (but she didn't listen).
This post is specifically in response to you, since I realize I have a different take than many here. Since I am also using an old school La Pavoni hand lever machine, I thought you might be open to/interested in my choice. It is a hand grinder made by Zassenhaus. It is probably about 100 yrs old and was restored and sold to me by Orphan Espresso. In case your unaware a good hand grinder is as good as it gets. Electric grinders actually have to be engineered to overcome the inherent problems of being fully mechanized. I have a friend who has a Mazzer, long considered one of the best homeowner makes. I believe mine to be at least as good and consistent. It takes me less than a minute to grind a shot and it is much quieter and smaller. This is all actually true with many fine hand tools. Unfortunately I believe Orphan Espresso no longer sell restored old hand grinders, but design and sell their own. I would bet they are pretty good. I would also stress that not any old hand grinder is good or especially not suitable for espresso making. Orphan espresso tested and rated each one they sold. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-20-2015, 01:29 PM
AJosiahK's Avatar
AJosiahK AJosiahK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Malden, MA
Posts: 4,102
Baratza Virtuoso +1

for hand grinders go with the Porlex. very portable, ceramic conical burrs. easy to clean and main point easy to set, or reset.

Ive also flown with it and TSA has yet to take it from me. Not great for espresso type brew methods however

Combined it with an aeropress and you can have good coffee anywhere there is hotwater.

---- edit

as for espresso grinders, its really hard to get even particle distribution with even some of the commercial grinders (such as a Mazzer luigi)

But if your dedicated to a good setup and willing to pay a little more, there are small home grinders that work great. Nuovo simonelli and Malkonig make some of the best in the industry.

I always say start with a great, not good, GREAT grinder. And go from there. They have the single most influence over quality of extraction.

d

Last edited by AJosiahK; 07-20-2015 at 01:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-20-2015, 02:56 PM
William's Avatar
William William is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Herding nomads won't
Posts: 30,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by jemoryl View Post
Have Breville upped the ante on their machines? A few years ago when I bought my stuff they mainly made consumer grade machines with pressurized portafilters, which can create 'crema' on an espresso even with a mediocre grinder.
I can't speak to their espresso machines, but they have upped the ante on their grinders. No more shims, and tightened tolerances on their stainless burrs. The Smart Grinder does espresso very well, and the SG Pro will grind fine enough for Turkish coffee.








William
__________________
Custom Frame Builders List
Support our vendors!
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 11-22-2015, 09:43 PM
fiamme red's Avatar
fiamme red fiamme red is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,428
So popular, it sold out and is on back order till December: https://www.momastore.org/museum/mom...-1_26669_26671.

Quote:
Your micro-roasted, small batch coffee beans are artisanal masterpieces, so why would you grind them in anything less? This exquisite machine has cranked out precision-ground beans since the early 1900s, and it's still made in the same factory in Northern Italy. It features a unique conical tempered steel grinding mechanism that's considered one of the best on the market. Its beautiful crank-driven wheel maintains a smooth, even momentum that makes grinding virtually effortless. The grounds are collected in a wooden drawer. 19oz. beans yield 12oz. ground coffee.
__________________
It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi.
--Peter Schickele
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 11-22-2015, 10:10 PM
osu cycling osu cycling is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 44
Using a Krups GVX here... leaves a bit of fine dust regardless of settings, but it seems to get the job done and is consistent.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 11-23-2015, 06:48 AM
SlowPokePete's Avatar
SlowPokePete SlowPokePete is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Hillsdale, NY
Posts: 2,281
Haven't read through what everyone said, so maybe mine was mentioned already, but I have been using a KitchenAid for maybe three years now and it has performed very well...

SPP
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 11-23-2015, 07:45 AM
rwsaunders's Avatar
rwsaunders rwsaunders is offline
Everything is connected
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seaburgh
Posts: 11,202
For either one cup at a time or perhaps for six cups...try a Hario.

Last edited by rwsaunders; 12-30-2019 at 08:39 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 11-23-2015, 08:05 AM
audi666 audi666 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 211
Quote:
Originally Posted by fiamme red View Post
So popular, it sold out and is on back order till December: https://www.momastore.org/museum/mom...-1_26669_26671.
haha thats amazing
__________________
Blog: https://ridethejawn.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 11-23-2015, 08:45 AM
grawk's Avatar
grawk grawk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Secret City, TN
Posts: 498
The hario mini broke the VERY first time I tried to use it. I ended up getting a porlex mini that is awesome, but only grinds up to 18g at a time.

http://smile.amazon.com/Porlex-Mini-...porlex+grinder
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.