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Re-connection 11S and 12S Campagnolo chains
From Campagnolo NA...with 10s chains, supplied pin needed to be installed into ‘virgin’ outer plates. No pushing pin out and then new pin in=broken chain there a high probability.
NOW with ‘peened pin’ 11s and 12s Campagnolo chains. When installed chain removed for cleaning...split 180 degrees from original pin, clean and then install with new pin, peened even tho not ‘virgin’ outer plates. MUST be new pin and peened with an appropriate tool. Still think a master/quick link is more better but...new 11s or 12s peened pin ok. For info.
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Thanks for that nugget.
Yeah I’m at the stage in life where all new info learned forces something out the other end, so I keep it simple with the KMC master links. |
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Yup. Or the Connex links.
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The new 12 speed stuff is so flat/tight tolerance that I'm surprised it didnt require a new tool to make the pin flat enough...
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One can't have too many links, imho. Fill me up a drawer. |
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as you pointed out in this thread, campy has clear reasons for its warning. in my story, I should have made it clearer, for you, that it was my trailside wrenching, pushing those darn pins in, that lead to the subsequent failures of the chain. and as implied by campy, even those of us that do this at a bench 'correctly', in this case, should not. my wife was laughing, because all my chain-breaking and fixing was NOT working & failing again and again and again, but I refused to just walk home. the reason the chain broke in the 1st place was because I had quads of pure American steel, and sophisticated or not, I wore stuff out. |
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Dude had to impress the girl... I would have done the same
Looks like the missing link way is the simplest and safest. Personally never used the pin since the invention of those missing links back like in 1986 maybe when shimano came up with them. Believe it or not I still have that 1st link I ever saw in my chains stuff tiny plastic bin. This one came in a 105sc group my dad got me in a trip to Japan, the group was just getting in the market. Shimano used to make stuff, tried them in the lower groups and then rolled them over up to the more fancy groups because after 105sc the ultegra group showed up a few weeks later with the same improvements. |
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+1 on the connex or any speed link!
I now have Camp 12 on a bike. I attempted to install the chain (how hard can it be?) with a chain tool supposed to be able to handle Campy 12 and peen stuff. Whatever. I completely screwed it up. I was already NOT a fan of Campy's chain connecting "system". I also was not about to run out and either buy a Campy brand chain tool (expensive) or another connector pin rig. So I grabbed a Sram Eagle Powerlock (this was a year ago before other stuff was available). I was a bit worried about small width differences. I put it on anyhow. From what I can tell (sound and shifting performance), everything works perfectly. And it's the pretty rainbow color. Lol. I had the bike in a shop while I was looking at other stuff. I caught a few of the shop guys "admiring" my wrenching skills...specifically my non-Campy chain joinery. I'm sure this is somewhat cringe-worthy. |
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As someone preparing to do their first 12 speed install and chain joinery, I appreciate these insights very much. I, alas, own neither the Campy nor the pretty Abbey chain tool and will rely on a Park CT-4.3 (fingers crossed).
I was discussing this the other day with my wheel guy who is a much more 'by-the-book' guy than OP, and he warned about the very tight tolerances in 12 speed, said connectors were a no-go. But he reported that, per his Campy rep, they plan to finally release their own quick link. Anyone else heard this scuttlebutt and, if so, by when? Edit: OP, I always appreciate a 3 Stooges reference, thanks. |
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Guessing that'd work as it's more substantial than the tool I used. Again, I opted for the much less expensive 12s Sram link.
With easily over 1k miles on the system, shifting (Campy 12s SR) is bang on with zero issues. Before riding on the road I listening for any odd sounds as I was def worried about any possible width variance. Heard nothing but the sound of my smile. |
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Master link type gigs have been around almost as long as chains..
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Chisholm's Custom Wheels Qui Si Parla Campagnolo Last edited by oldpotatoe; 12-12-2019 at 06:37 AM. |
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I always avoided using replacement pins. Not just in Campy but Shimano too. Snap together links are just safer.
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