AMP human lotion

[Tickdoc]

have we discussed this here yet?

I hear good things and wonder if it would help with sorenes/cramping?

Sounds like it would be worth a shot....err a rub.

https://amphumanperformance.com/

[FlashUNC]

A magic cream that you rub on and suddenly do amazing things?

Snake oil sure has gotten sophisticated in their pitches.

[Tickdoc]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

A magic cream that you rub on and suddenly do amazing things?

Snake oil sure has gotten sophisticated in their pitches.

Normally, yes, I would agree...but when it sweeps so many high caliber athletes and nearly the entire Peloton it peaks my interest.

Surely someone here has tried it?

[benb]

I am amazed this doesn't have CBD in it...

[Dr Luxurious]

Make your own.
It's essentially hand lotion with baking soda and menthol.
It must have a pretty high ph with the soda and lye which, yeah, would neutralize (lactic) acid IF it makes it into the muscles.
Give it a shot. Definitely can't hurt you.


Menthol (0.5%), sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), water, isopropyl palmitate, lecithin, poloxamer 407, palm kernel oil, alcohol denat., benzyl alcohol, coconut oil, jojoba seed oil, caprylic/capric triglycerides, sodium hydroxide, fragrance

[berserk87]

It's gotta be the jojoba seed oil that's the magic in the sauce.

I'm just joking, of course. I can't imagine what substance in this concoction would make any difference.

[sitzmark]

Tried it earlier this month for PITM150 (Pain in the MASS 150miles/12k vert). No noticeable difference from last year ... except that I didn't have time to train this time. 10+% grades suffered appropriately from lack of training, but overall performance and after-event condition was same. Some quad soreness and stiffness developed post-ride for first 30-60 minutes, then pretty much gone after a couple of hours. Same as last year.

Haven't used AMP since PITM - not sure if I will again. Kind of a smelly, slimy mess to apply. Maybe there's some benefit (based on science) at full-tilt for highest level competition, but for recreational level I sensed nothing. Received a couple of emails promoting a new formulation in the works - think it is a kickstart project. I'm not personally motivated to buy in, but a change from the current slimy formulation would be a better experience.

[RailTrailRacer]

If the stuff wasn't legit, the pros wouldn't be using it. The sodium bicarb can help buffer lactic acid. It looks interesting, to be honest, maybe I'll give it a try.

[glepore]

Tried it, and can't separate the placebo effect from reality. Not to say something wasn't going on, but it might have been between my ears.

One thing that does seem to work is Sportlegs. Was turned on to this thru Selene Yeager's podcast, and without a doubt it helps. Good day in a bottle.

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by RailTrailRacer

If the stuff wasn't legit, the pros wouldn't be using it.

Lol.

[berserk87]

Originally Posted by RailTrailRacer

If the stuff wasn't legit, the pros wouldn't be using it. The sodium bicarb can help buffer lactic acid. It looks interesting, to be honest, maybe I'll give it a try.

I seem to recall a famous old black and white photo of some pros riding and smoking, because it allegedly "opened up the lungs". Pros do some legit things and some that are just spook science. They have for years (see for reference: Breathe Right Strips, beet juice, amphetamines). That's not necessarily a litmus test for anything.

Conversely, aero bars were once thought ridiculous by pros.

I was one of the first riders in my area to ride Speedplay pedals. I recall having several local strong racers ridiculing them and saying "the pros don't use them". Well, they do now. What pros do and don't do shouldn't control your independent thought.

[gasman]

There’s zero scientific reason it should do anything positive for your performance. The placebo effect will give you a positive effect for almost anything you study when you aren’t actually making objective measurements. The pros say they feel faster so let them use it. If you want to use it , no worries. Almost certainly it won’t improve your performance.

[Hellgate]

Originally Posted by RailTrailRacer

If the stuff wasn't legit, the pros wouldn't be using it.

That's awesome! They get paid to ride bikes, and are paid to endorse products.

Remember when cigarettes were "good for you?"

[SlowPokePete]

The placebo effect

is real.

SPP™

[sitzmark]

There are a few double blind, peer-reviewed studies (San Diego State U and third party IIRC) that generated quantitative (blood level lactate / HR) and qualitative data which suggest some correlation to performance gains and improved post-activity recovery following advanced anaerobic activity.

I don’t challenge the data and conclusions of the study, but I also didn’t perceive subjective levels of benefit from my use of the product. Certainly not “magic sauce” at my level. ... not that I expected it to be ...