DeRosa Idol or Pinarello Prince?

[JohnFlo]

Big debate, Im getting a 60th BDay present for myself. Narrowed it down to a DeRosa Idol Disc 46cm ultegra, Pinarello Prince disk 51.5cm, Bianchi Oltre3 ultegra disk 50cm. Ive had Pinnarellos, Merckx, BGordons in the past. Top tubes and size all work. Main concern is nobody has a picture of a 46cm DeRosa. Not even DeRosa! Any thoughts on these bikes?

[pasadena]

Personally think the DeRosa looks the best of your picks in smaller sizes.
The Pinarello and Bianchi frames are chunky and, to my eye, a bit awkward as all those tubes intersect so soon.

51.5 Prince does look good, imo. a bit porky though, lovely bike.

Not sure what size Idol this is, but lovely. Looks maybe a 50cm range?
https://veloseven.com/dream-bikes/14...idol-disc.html

[Dave]

There's a big difference in stack, with the DeRosa at 516 and the pinarello at 543. I'm very picky with stack, so I know exactly what combination of spacers and stem angle I need to get my bar height. I notice though that pinarello measures stack with their 9mm headset top in place. Most companies don't do that, but the Derosa looks like it also has a not-round spacer on top of the head tube. Best to find out what they include in the stack.

[jemdet]

Originally Posted by pasadena

Personally think the DeRosa looks the best of your picks in smaller sizes.
The Pinarello and Bianchi frames are chunky and, to my eye, a bit awkward as all those tubes intersect so soon.

51.5 Prince does look good, imo. a bit porky though, lovely bike.

Not sure what size Idol this is, but lovely. Looks maybe a 50cm range?
https://veloseven.com/dream-bikes/14...idol-disc.html

Those handlebars aren't doing that bike any favors.

[torelli]

Can't go wrong with any of these. Keep hearing rumors of a new version of the Oltre being introduced this year, current model hasn't been updated in some time now. If it was me I wouldn't be too concern about that.

I think the DeRosa looks the best. Best to make a choice now if you want to ride it sometime this year if you haven't already found one in your size in stock somewhere.

[zmalwo]

I have a 51.5cm 2020 Pinarello Prince myself and really think that the 2021 Prince is be the best looking one out of all three. I would go with the Prince, plus Pinarello extrended their warranty recently to 5 years, I'm sure the other brands also have similar warranty to Pinarello. Oh, and the threaded BBs on Prince is another plus.

[old_fat_and_slow]

Pinarello forks look wonky. Get the DeRosa.

[torelli]

Yeah I forgot Pinarellos have always used threaded bb's. That's a big plus but it seems like creaky press fit bb's aren't as common as they were a few years ago.