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Old 10-30-2024, 09:02 AM
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Big Bore, No Core!

I had not seen these, but this is an interesting take on tubeless valves from muc-off. Removing the internal check valve core entirely seems to make a lot of sense for tubeless. Sealant always wants to gum up the valve. Looks like they took the valve external. More air flow and the valve out of the rim internals.

Anyone try a pair?

They are not cheap, as far as valves go, that's for sure.

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Old 10-30-2024, 09:26 AM
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I haven't tried the new ones, but the first generation Muc-Off tubeless valves were very poor. Not sure what it was, as they seemed about like every other valve, but the airflow was terrible.
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Old 10-30-2024, 09:36 AM
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Filmores are pretty decent.
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Old 10-30-2024, 09:53 AM
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I just say no to tubeless.
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:02 AM
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Like to see the progress here. I’ve been using reserve and 76 project valves for a few years now almost exclusively on my all road and mtb and don’t miss presta valves at all.
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:39 AM
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I used the Reserve Fillmore valves on my latest wheels.

I do very much enjoy the simplicity of use, but there is one drawback to the non-removable core design: you can't get a spoke down in there to use as a dipstick to check your sealant levels. So checking the sealant requires breaking the bead... And I don't have the compressor I'd need to reseat it. So sealant levels require some guesswork.

If anyone has any ideas on a better strategy to check sealant levels with this style valve, I'm all ears!
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:44 AM
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People check sealant levels? I don't do road tubeless, but in my stable it's pump some new sealant in quarterly. No checking necessary
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:58 AM
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I used the Reserve Fillmore valves on my latest wheels.

I do very much enjoy the simplicity of use, but there is one drawback to the non-removable core design: you can't get a spoke down in there to use as a dipstick to check your sealant levels. So checking the sealant requires breaking the bead... And I don't have the compressor I'd need to reseat it. So sealant levels require some guesswork.

If anyone has any ideas on a better strategy to check sealant levels with this style valve, I'm all ears!
I’ve never needed a compressor to pop a single bead back on after checking sealant levels.
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Old 10-30-2024, 11:05 AM
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The new Park injector looks like it addresses sealant in the valve stem. I pull the core to inject sealant through the stem, but the Park injector inserts through the valve stem.
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Old 10-30-2024, 11:39 AM
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Also a fan of the Fillmore: https://www.tobedetermined.cc/journa...ubeless-valves
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Old 10-30-2024, 12:28 PM
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The local shops have kind of talked me out of all these fancy valves.

- too expensive
- regular valves can have the core removed
- removal still works best for sealant injection
- removal still works best for mounting w/air compressor
- replacement cores are < $1 in almost all cases and a $10 pack would last me forever
- I have the park injector
- last time I gummed one up they gave me some free

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Old 10-30-2024, 12:41 PM
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Shake the wheel to check for sealant.
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Old 10-30-2024, 03:26 PM
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If I were into these type of valves, I would go for these Bontrager's https://www.pinkbike.com/news/bontra...ess-valve.html
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Old 10-30-2024, 04:27 PM
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I used the Reserve Fillmore valves on my latest wheels.

I do very much enjoy the simplicity of use, but there is one drawback to the non-removable core design: you can't get a spoke down in there to use as a dipstick to check your sealant levels. So checking the sealant requires breaking the bead... And I don't have the compressor I'd need to reseat it. So sealant levels require some guesswork.

If anyone has any ideas on a better strategy to check sealant levels with this style valve, I'm all ears!
The other thing with the Fillmore valves is that it's a lot harder to inject sealant through the valve. We'd normally take the valve core out of a Presta valve, but on a Fillmore you can't do that.

That said, once the tire is seated and you break part of the bead, I think it should reseat easily. At least, that happened to me last time, and I didn't have to use my tubeless canister.
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Old 10-30-2024, 04:29 PM
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I hadn’t seen them before but I’ve heard some good things about them, even if they’re a bit pricey for just valves
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