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02-15-2018, 08:23 AM
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Interesting the happiness of tubeless seems to go up with lower pressures and larger tires.
 Rim: Velocity A23 Rim width: 18 mm ID Tire: Schwalbe Pro One Pressure: 95 Tire width inflated: 24ish How many layers of tape: 2, Stans aka Tesa 4289 Are you using sealant: Yes If so, what kind and how much: Stans and OrangeSeal 1.5-2 oz Would you buy them again: Maybe What have you tried that you didn't like: Two punctures that would not seal @ 95 psi. 2nd one was a front puncture at 35+ mph on a descent, which then sprayed sealant all over the front and rear tire like an aerosol sprayer. Somehow I managed to slip-n-slide to a stop safely, but it was very very exciting! I remain skeptical of high pressure road tubeless, but am getting a hankering to try it again because I am dumb and the ride is very nice. But I would definitely carry a Dynaplug to address the "non-sealing" issue. That said, zero issues at lower <60 PSI pressures on bigger tires with cross & gravel bikes. 
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02-15-2018, 08:42 AM
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Rim: Pacenti SL23 V.2
Rim width: 24 mm external/18 mm ID Tire: Schwalbe Pro One (25 rear, 28 front...I think, couldn't fit 28s on my Firefly and I think I just switched the rear to 25mm) Pressure: 85 Tire width inflated: 24ish How many layers of tape: 2, Maxi 248 Polyester/Silicone Single Coated Splicing Tape, 3.3 mil Thick, 72 yds Length, 1" Width, Green Are you using sealant: Yes If so, what kind and how much: Still have Stans in there, but I've switched over to OrangeSeal 1-1.5 oz, so I'll replace this spring Would you buy them again: Yes What have you tried that you didn't also like: I have the Hutchinson's Sector 28s on my gravel bike, mounted easily, more flat protection. I like them too.
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02-15-2018, 09:30 AM
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Why no love for Hutchinson Fusions? I have them on two bikes and like them.
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02-15-2018, 09:40 AM
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Linking past road tubeless discussion here: Best Tubeless Road Tire-GO! https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...=road+tubeless
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02-15-2018, 09:41 AM
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According to several roll resistance tests, you can’t get much faster, if at all. https://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/ge...-tested-49101/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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02-15-2018, 09:50 AM
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I’m getting ready to try a set of S-Works Turbos, replacing Bontragers which I don’t particularly care for (fairly lousy in the wet, not that great a ride compared to Schwalbe One’s). Greg
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02-15-2018, 11:03 AM
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2 sets of road tubeless.
Easton 55s with Schwalbe Pro One. 23 on front, 25 on rear--measure out to 26 and 28. I run 80psi max in both...sometimes less. I have been really happy with the Schwalbes. Eastons are wide...around 20mm inner width. Roval CLX50 discs with Spesh Turbo Tubeless. 24 on front, 26 on rear--measure out to 26 and 28ish. Another wide rim at 20.7mm inner. Again, 80psi front and rear. My only gripe is I flatted the rear Turbo and I felt the Orange Seal should have been able to seal the small hole, but it didn't. I was using the Endurance formula and have since switched back to the normal, slightly thicker formula. I could not get the Schwalbes to seat on the Roval rims, yet they seat easily on the Eastons. I tried all the usual tricks. The Turbos seated up with no problem. Ride-wise, both sets feel the same. Allegedly the Schwalbes roll a bit better, but I can't feel such a small difference. Both tires feel grippy. Schwalbes seem to be lasting a bit better, but that could just be that there is no file tread to wear down like the Turbos have. I rode the Easton/Schwalbe combo for a road race with lots of gravel and potholes. Aired down to 75psi, and the ride was so plush I kept checking to make sure I hadn't flatted. Tires survived with no cuts. Hit a hole so hard my bars slipped, but no air loss or rim damage.
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02-15-2018, 11:17 AM
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Leaning towards:
Schwalbe Pro One 25's to pair with my Belgium + Hoping they have room on this Moots with enve fork and sram red black edition brakes. Any concerns with rubbing that would make you go to 23's? 
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02-15-2018, 11:37 AM
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The rim I mentioned above, the DT RR511 is a 21mm wide road rim. "Wide" seems to start around 23mm and older frames like mine have much tighter clearances between the chainstays than a lot of the newer bikes. The 511 is tubeless and a nice compromise if tire clearance is expected to be an issue.
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02-15-2018, 12:46 PM
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Hard to mount, rough riding, modest corning, $100 plus tax, and slow. What is to like about them. Oh ya, flatted on the first ride. I just took them off and they are sitting in the pile.
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02-16-2018, 08:06 PM
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Rim? HED Belguim plus gravel / Campy Eurus road (12 years old)
Rim width? 25 23 Tire? Hutch Secteur 28 road / Hutch Overide 38c Pressure? 75ish lb / 60lb ish Tire width inflated? How many layers of tape? one Are you using sealant? Orange Seal If so, what kind and how much? 2-3oz Would you buy them again? Oh, yeah... HED and Hutchinson seem to match up very well. Schwalbe G-one's set up well too. What have you tried that you didn't like? I like Orange more than Stans, just mho
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02-16-2018, 10:23 PM
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02-26-2018, 04:47 PM
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I used a pair of 25mm Schwalbe Pro One on Enve 3.4 tubeless rims. They worked flawlessly for several century rides until I got a puncture. It was messy and will not seal. That is the end of my tubeless experimentation. I do want to try it again with a pair of Hutchinson Fusion 5 Galaktic TL tire but looks like Pro One are the norms here.
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