best generation of campy brakes? - Page 2

campy man · #16 01-23-2019, 09:45 AM

+1 on these ... I'm way past counting grams on cycling stuff

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

i am about to build a bike that will not be matchy matchy, so...

from a performance standpoint (not aesthetics, not weight) - if you had to pick ANY generation or group level of campagnolo brakes, which would you choose?

my initial inclination would be these, but open to thoughts.....

choke · #17 01-23-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Very Best anti lock brake made and ohhhh so pretty..

5 pinot, last gen..dreamy..but gotta set them up right.

NOT entirely kidding...on my Merckx, work great.

I have to agree though make mine the Croce d'Aune version because they offer a lot more clearance. I have more bikes with Deltas than any other brake.

ntb1001 · #18 01-23-2019, 05:10 PM

Record or Super Record Skelton Dual Pivot.

The best

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Elefantino · #19 01-23-2019, 05:22 PM

The top four of what I have

1) 11-speed group Super Record skeleton dual pivot
2) 10-speed group Record dual/single
3) 11-speed group Chorus skeleton dual pivot
4) 10-speed group Centaur dual/single

raisinberry777 · #20 01-23-2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R3awak3n

I am with you, I do not notice different btw the ones you pictured and skeleton so I would pick the ones you think look better. Personally I am a fan of skeleton so that is what I would pick.

Also, only dual pivot in my life so that are to me the best campy brakes... skeleton, dual pivot. The new potenzas even fit shimano pads which is also a plus to me because my other brake sets are either shimano or EE brakes which take shimano pads.

So my pick is new Potenza....

They cost $60. Dual pivot. Skeleton. Shimano pads. BOOM. Ok, they are a bit heavy compared to EEs but not that heavy compared to SR $300 brakes.

The new Potenza brakes are absolutely outstanding - work fantastically in all conditions, quiet, long lasting, use the Shimano standard for pads which are much easier to find replacements for. Not much more I could ask for.

tylercheung · #21 01-23-2019, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by old fat man

All my Campy 10 and 11 speed bikes run Shimano 6800 calipers. Work well, great clearance, inexpensive, plenty of pad choices, and so far, no one has stopped me for having Shimano brakes with a Campy drivetrain.

those 6800's are seriously unsung heroes lol

thirdgenbird · #22 01-23-2019, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist

my initial inclination would be these, but open to thoughts.....

Agreed.

These are attractive, effective, and reasonably priced. The hardware is all top notch titanium, aluminum, and stainless so they don’t rust like cheaper stuff. I was also able to easily run 30mm cross tires in them despite the pads being only being about mid-way down the slot.

I have a black and a silver pair tucked away just in case.

19wisconsin64 · #23 01-23-2019, 08:08 PM

Campagnolo Record - Cobalto brake calipers and levers, from the 1980's. They don't work as well as modern brakesets, but they sure do look great on the bike!

dookie · #24 01-23-2019, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Very Best anti lock brake made and ohhhh so pretty..

5 pinot, last gen..dreamy..but gotta set them up right.

NOT entirely kidding...on my Merckx, work great.

So...not at all what you asked about, but 5-pivot Deltas! Boat anchors, and so geeky...but they really can work well. I use Kool-Stop salmon pads.

As for best performing Campy brake, can I say Mavic SSC? The ones with the leaf-spring?

osbk67 · #25 01-23-2019, 10:34 PM

Here's a not-entirely unrelated question the collective wisdom here may be able to solve...

I have a set of Cobalto calipers I want to run with Shamal Mille wheels, which "require" a specific blue pad. I have the pads in both Campagnolo and Shimano pattern, but of course neither will fit the old Cobalto holders.

So I need a holder which will take the pads but also work with the narrow slots in Cobalto caliper arms. Newer holders upon which the Allen nut sleeves over the threaded bolt from the holder are too wide for the slots.

Best recommendation?

I can come back with a picture but if you have solved the problem you won't need one. Many thanks...

thirdgenbird · #26 01-23-2019, 11:01 PM

Some of the aftermarket shimano-style holders have very narrow hardware. I used them on a set of vintage brakes not designed for modern holders. They weren’t Campagnolo brakes, but probably similar in size.

choke · #27 01-23-2019, 11:34 PM

Thirdgenbird has the solution. I've used modern Shimano style holders on vintage calipers -Campy, Zeus, Universal - and they work fine.

oldpotatoe · #28 01-24-2019, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by osbk67

Here's a not-entirely unrelated question the collective wisdom here may be able to solve...

I have a set of Cobalto calipers I want to run with Shamal Mille wheels, which "require" a specific blue pad. I have the pads in both Campagnolo and Shimano pattern, but of course neither will fit the old Cobalto holders.

So I need a holder which will take the pads but also work with the narrow slots in Cobalto caliper arms. Newer holders upon which the Allen nut sleeves over the threaded bolt from the holder are too wide for the slots.

Best recommendation?

I can come back with a picture but if you have solved the problem you won't need one. Many thanks...

Have you tried a modern Campagnolo brake block holder?

osbk67 · #29 01-24-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Have you tried a modern Campagnolo brake block holder?

Thanks oldpotato, you've got me doubting myself now. Just rechecked - new Campagnolo holders will not fit, as both the bolt on the holder and the Torx attachment nut have to fit within the caliper arm slot. With the original holders only the bolt on the holder is within the caliper arm slot, the attachment hex nut sits outside it. I'm reluctant to file open the slot, in case I want to restore them to original again later. Photographs to follow...

thirdgenbird · #30 01-24-2019, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by osbk67

Thanks oldpotato, you've got me doubting myself now. Just rechecked - new Campagnolo holders will not fit, as both the bolt on the holder and the Torx attachment nut have to fit within the caliper arm slot. With the original holders only the bolt on the holder is within the caliper arm slot, the attachment hex nut sits outside it. I'm reluctant to file open the slot, in case I want to restore them to original again later. Photographs to follow...

Again, shimano should work. The nut and bolt are a smaller diameter and should fit. I’ve done it twice.