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I think it’s reasonable to say record 10 had clear advantages were 11spd became more about preference and ergonomics. Ekar is similar to record 10. It offers a pretty compelling package that others don’t quite match. Quote:
I think both my bikes posted on page 2 look pretty good. Switching the components, while possible, would look silly. Last edited by thirdgenbird; 02-28-2021 at 11:54 AM. |
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That's my point. Are carbon fiber components ever going to be beautiful? No. Or at least no one has made any to date. But they're also not definitely "UGLY", at least a lot of the Campagnolo ones aren't. Campagnolo Record level carbon levers are very nice, but they're not beautiful. Those carbon components will never be beautiful in a C-Record sense, but at least they're not stupid, which is what putting heavy chunks of polished aluminum would be on a 2021 carbon fiber pro-team bike. If we want things to function over a massive range cassette moving like an ultra-lightweight, multi-articulation, mechanical "arm" or "hand"... it's going to look like that. Horses for courses.
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Only the ugly ones are ugly.
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Agreed. I would never call the yeti beautiful. I like the way it looks, but it’s not “pretty” or “beautiful.” Something can look good without being those other things.
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Stop saying **** like this. Seriously, it's gross.
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I mean, what does ekar offer that others don't? an extra speed? I think ekar is great but lets not pretend its something above and beyond something else available. Its an extra speed and thats it. yes, please stop this crap, not only is offensive, not funny, not true and not the mentality we should have is 2021. |
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Yes Ekar offers an extra gear and lighter weight, which is exactly what Campy has done with every other new group release in the past. But also, IMO, the brakes are above and beyond in performance as compared to any other hydro group and the gearing jumps are set up to have only 1 tooth jumps at the bottom of the cassette for road riding. No other 1x group gets this done as well Ekar currently. And, of course, it’s Campy and gravel specific. But back to the thread topic - it’s also got much less carbon than the road groups so there could be silver versions in the future. |
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The problem is that the grey and black of the carbon parts don’t show off any shape. Like the aluminum parts did. The silver just showed off the shape more. So equipment makers had to think how the cranks looked. A black crank just looks blocky and chunky.
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what he said
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That’s all pretty significant given it costs less than a chorus disc group. If the rumors elsewhere are true, we also may not see Shimano 12 speed for drop bar bikes until mid-late 2022. Sram seems to have given up on mechanical drop bar groups. All said, I would say that makes it a pretty unique product in an otherwise mature market. |
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No matter what you write, someone will look for and find offense in it.
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and thats the thing, shimano does not even need to, they still gonna sell more GRX than campy will sell Ekar. And yeah in 1x even 1 cog matters and ekar is great, I am a fan (minus the thumb button of course ) |
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yeah, when its offensive people usually do that. We need to do better, comparing bikes and cars to women or that old mentality crap is long due to disapear.
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