I just inherited a pair of 28/32 King hubs...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

archetypes are quite stout, durable rims. i havent heard of any issues with the hard ano versions cracking. the ano versions look very nice and are a good alternative if you dont want a silver or black rim. the brake tracks hold up pretty well in my experience, and when worn, they look no worse than any other painted rim with a silver brake track. i have a set on a gravel bike (my geekhouse) and they have held up remarkably well, brake fantastically, and still look good.

When onna bike, hard to tell if they are HA or black....except for black vs white decals...BUT more $....I'd still say DT411 for Gummee....HED are so Dern expensive....QBP has 'em...411s

[cpamplin]

What's the difference between DT411 and 440? Did one just replace the other? I can look it up but since you're here...

[CiclistiCliff]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

DT411 really nice and OC rear..time to get tubulars? 28/32 Ambrosio are hard to find but..
I'll bet I can find a DT440 front in 28h..I have 32h DT440 rears(OC also)..

I've got a brand new R440 28 at the shop

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by cpamplin

What's the difference between DT411 and 440? Did one just replace the other? I can look it up but since you're here...

Different profile, 411 lots lighter(in rim speak), 411 needs nipple washers and recommends their squorx nipples..

[Gummee]

If I were building for Luke the local cop, I'd be looking at Belgiums or B+ rims. He's a big guy.

For me at 165-170 and ride gently, I don't need that strong a rim with this wheelbuild.

I think I'm going to borrow a pair of King/Belgium + wheels tonite if it isn't raining. See how a 20/24 wheelset feels in that config

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