New Campy 12 Speed

[Dave]

Originally Posted by crossjunkee

I got my Record group from Pinkjersey.com. Looks like they have Chorus. Super nice guy and excellent pricing.

https://www.pinkjersey.com/product/c...upset-8-piece/

The website says availability late summer. I placed an order, so I'll see what the expected delivery date is. The price seems great - less than I paid for my Chorus 11 group last year.

[R3awak3n]

Super cool that campy is offering a 32 with a 34T in the back. Seriously impressed as that is great gearing. 48T in front is great too, more than enough for me.

[MilanoTom]

Originally Posted by Dave

The website says availability late summer. I placed an order, so I'll see what the expected delivery date is. The price seems great - less than I paid for my Chorus 11 group last year.

I'm already seeing availability on QBP. Any shop should be able to order it.

[KarlC]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

You say that the calipers are pressed against the rim, but in the photo the arms aren't closed very far and a large portion of the pads are visible. This implies that the rims are quite wide. Narrower rims would allow the arms to close more, and therefore the cable arm to rise higher (giving more tire room space).

I suppose switching the narrow rims is not an option, but is it possible to remove a spacer/washer on the brake shoes, or find brake shoes/pads that are thinner, so the caliper arms close more?

The Zipp 303 FC tubular rim is said to be 26.5 at the brake track, I have not checked it.

Yes Narrower rims, spacer/washer or brake shoes would allow the arms to close more.

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[Dave]

After placing an order with pink jersey, it appears that few parts are really available at this time. If you want chorus 12, it's not here yet. Some parts just starting to show up.

[Jeff N.]

Originally Posted by KarlC

I played around a bit more with my Record 12 brakes, here are some photos for ya. I tried to keep the photos and camera angles close to the same and I used the same brake shoes and pads on all of the below photos.

Once again all of the below photos are on my Seven 622 SLX, all with the same brake shoes and pads. All are held fully closed against the same Zipp 303 FC wheel with a Veloflex Vlaanderen 27 tubular tire at 80 PSI.

1st photo is Record 11, (I could not fit a 2mm allen in, so maybe there is 1.5mm space)
2nd photo is Record 12 with the adjustment screw fully in (this is touching the tire)
3nd photo is Record 12 with the adjustment screw fully out (I did fit a 4mm allen in)

What ADJUSTMENT screw are you referring to?

[donevwil]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

Super cool that campy is offering a 32 with a 34T in the back. Seriously impressed as that is great gearing. 48T in front is great too, more than enough for me.

The founder of my local team is now in his 70's, but for years rode an old Gios with 53-42 x 12-23. As he aged it took all our skills of persuasion to have him accept 53-39 x 12-27. He was embarrassed as he thought it reflected poorly on him and promised no more gear changes. When that gearing proved insufficient he gave up cycling.

[KarlC]

Originally Posted by Jeff N.

What ADJUSTMENT screw are you referring to?

Looking at the photo it would be on the right side, some call it a centering screw, but I does more that just center the brakes.

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[djdj]

Life was so much easier before the marketing folks tried to convince us that wider rims/tires are better/needed/more aero.

[Jeff N.]

Originally Posted by KarlC

Looking at the photo it would be on the right side, some call it a centering screw, but I does more that just center the brakes.

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WOW! Very interesting! Just made an adjustment on my MOOTS. I tell ya...learn something new every day. Many thanks! Seriously!

[ERK55]

Uhhhh... on the right side of the photo, or the bike? Frankly I don’t see the screw on either side.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Jeff N.

WOW! Very interesting! Just made an adjustment on my MOOTS. I tell ya...learn something new every day. Many thanks! Seriously!

We need pics - you rebuilt the Moots with Record 12???

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[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by ERK55

Uhhhh... on the right side of the photo, or the bike? Frankly I don’t see the screw on either side.

Wee allen on RH side is for increasing spring tension, the one on left is for centering the brake.

[Jeff N.]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Wee allen on RH side is for increasing spring tension, the one on left is for centering the brake.

Just the opposite, looking at the pic...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Jeff N.

Just the opposite, looking at the pic...

depends on perspective, I guess..the one above the spring, for example..adjusts spring tension...

arrow for centering..other side for tension