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Old 06-19-2019, 05:50 PM
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Two riders caught doping at New York gran fondo

https://gfny.com/doping19/

https://cyclingtips.com/2019/06/two-...rk-gran-fondo/

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Two riders have tested positive for EPO at the GFNY World Championship in New York, organisers announced on Tuesday.

Colombian Felipe Mendez and Argentinian Gabriel Raff both returned samples containing recombinant EPO in out-of-competition tests held in the lead up to the May 19 gran fondo.

Organisers claim that Mendez also “tried to claim his twin brother’s identity” during the doping control and then “showed up at the race start with a ‘broken’ wristband, which seems like an attempt to further hide his identity”. Mendez finished the day in 71st place while Raff was 25th...
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:00 PM
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I like the creativity. Not as good as Tyler Hamilton's chimeric twin... But better than tainted beef.

Philosophical question: is this evidence that the amateurs have been influenced by the pros and consider doping just part of the sport or that humans will cheat, and pros are just as human as amateurs?
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:35 PM
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But there's no prize money? Just. Why???
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:14 PM
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Gran Fondo New York World Championship? Gran fondos have world championships? Appears this is some kind of GFNY series with fondos all over the world.

I imagine these guys were doping for a real race at some future date and simply got nabbed here. Funny stuff.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:18 PM
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:40 PM
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I dope for the local Tuesday night world championships.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:50 PM
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I raced the inaugural GFNY Jerusalem last year (a week before the opening 3 stages of the Giro were in Israel). They have GFNY events all around the world (not yet here in Australia) and the top finishers get invited to the championchip in NYC.

Anyway. Gotta tell ya, I'm not exactly unfit... and was with the lead group for the first 85km... before a few of the guys took off at the front in a way that seemed supremely unnatural.
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:57 PM
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I dope for the local Tuesday night world championships.
Sweet

I started doping to win my commute
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:58 PM
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Philosophical question: is this evidence that the amateurs have been influenced by the pros and consider doping just part of the sport or that humans will cheat, and pros are just as human as amateurs?
Both
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:55 PM
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But there's no prize money? Just. Why???
This is what I always ask when a certain dude shows up at our group rides and is just aggro from the moment he parks until he leaves. Dude, it's not a race.
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Old 06-20-2019, 04:03 AM
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it must've been the water. or the pastrami.

tainted i say, tainted!
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:15 AM
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This is what I always ask when a certain dude shows up at our group rides and is just aggro from the moment he parks until he leaves. Dude, it's not a race.
“aggro”??
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:18 AM
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Never mind (I used the universal resource Urban Dictionary).
But shouldn’t it be “aggre” then?
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:28 AM
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Never mind (I used the universal resource Urban Dictionary).
But shouldn’t it be “aggre” then?
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:04 AM
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i suspect these guys are doping in general, and just happen to get caught because GFNY is actually a proactive amateur level event looking to promote the concept of a clean sport.

Pretty sure they've caught more than a handful of people over the years theyve been having the ride.

it's a neat one as you start on the George Washington Bridge in NYC.
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