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Old 04-15-2024, 09:12 AM
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Has anyone seen a maximum air pressure/weight limit for the fork?

Ignore - found it - 250PSI/250lbs
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:14 AM
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Has anyone seen a maximum air pressure/weight limit for the fork?
250lb/250PSI per the spec page
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:15 AM
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Has anyone seen a maximum air pressure/weight limit for the fork?
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Rider Weight Limit/Max PSI
250 lbs / 250 psi
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:32 AM
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Hey Spoon? What’s your problem? Honestly?

And I’m out and off this board for awhile again.
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:48 AM
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Hey Spoon? What’s your problem? Honestly?

And I’m out and off this board for awhile again.
Why are you offended that I asked what gravel fork(s) you've ridden?

Does it wound your pride so severely to say "I haven't ridden any" or "I rode X and it sucked"?

Questions aren't personal attacks and you don't need to stomp off every time someone asks to clarify why you hold the opinion that you do on a given topic.
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:55 AM
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I like it
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Old 04-15-2024, 09:56 AM
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Why are you offended that I asked what gravel fork(s) you've ridden?

Does it wound your pride so severely to say "I haven't ridden any" or "I rode X and it sucked"?

Questions aren't personal attacks and you don't need to stomp off every time someone asks to clarify why you hold the opinion that you do on a given topic.
You responded with a flurry of aggressive messages, including images. You clearly are heavily invested in proving that I am “wrong.” In previous encounters, you have resurrected months old threads (the one on Legion) to send me disgusting images as a perceived “own” for some idle half-serious comment that I made. Generally I avoid any thread that you’re involved in because you seem to have some personal vendetta against me and so I don’t find it helpful to respond to you in any substantive fashion.
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:00 AM
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You responded with a flurry of aggressive messages, including images. You clearly are heavily invested in proving that I am “wrong.” In previous encounters, you have resurrected months old threads (the one on Legion) to send me disgusting images as a perceived “own” for some idle half-serious comment that I made. Generally I avoid any thread that you’re involved in because you seem to have some personal vendetta against me and so I don’t find it helpful to respond to you in any substantive fashion.
I think there is a culture difference and you are reading a tone that is not present.

Besides, it was one image and wasn't even a real crow.
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:03 AM
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I think there is a culture difference and you are reading a tone that is not present.

Besides, it was one image and wasn't even a real crow.
It disgusted me - I would call that a difference in values, not culture. And you clearly were intent on proving me wrong, enough to dig something up that I literally didn’t remember and had spent about 2 minutes thinking about. This board is usually a nice distraction during a hectic day - I don’t need it to be another source of stress. So hence - I avoid you.
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:13 AM
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It disgusted me - I would call that a difference in values, not culture. And you clearly were intent on proving me wrong, enough to dig something up that I literally didn’t remember and had spent about 2 minutes thinking about. This board is usually a nice distraction during a hectic day - I don’t need it to be another source of stress. So hence - I avoid you.
I don't think it's a big deal to reply to something 2 weeks and 11 posts later, after someone bumped the thread when updated news came out. I took your half-serious comment as a joke and made a joke in response, it wasn't meant to be something that was going to bother you four months later.

If it bothered you so much, perhaps getting in your own cutting rejoinder before the lock was a poor choice?
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:17 AM
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gosh darn it I really do not like marketing garbage talk.

I wonder how torsional rigidity will be, seems like that is the main problem with inverted designs. The axle is the only thing keeping the two sides pointed in the same direction.

Would have been cool if they used a big axle like the maverick fork.

Oh well, could be nice I guess.
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:29 AM
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The EC look mentions the rigidity issue with some great pics:

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The Invert suffers from neither of those issues as the massive carbon fiber upper structure is both plenty rigid – both fore-aft and through hard corners – and impressively light, the lower legs are relatively stout with 30 mm diameters, and there’s a lot of separation between the upper and lower bushings. I’m not sure how well such an arrangement would work in a longer-travel application, but it seems to do the trick just fine here.
https://escapecollective.com/cane-cr...t-ride-review/
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:38 AM
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The size of the uppers or diameter of the lowers will help (especially with fore/aft) but in the end won't keep the lowers from freely rotating within in each other on their slippery smooth bearings.

I am sure marketing people and people interested in selling them and access journalists think they are great. They may in fact be great.

I will wait till I can personally put the tire between my legs and twist the bars to judge.

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The EC look mentions the rigidity issue with some great pics:



https://escapecollective.com/cane-cr...t-ride-review/
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Old 04-15-2024, 10:44 AM
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for me maybe the most interesting part?

"Quite interestingly, there’s no damper at all. Cane Creek says it actually built parallel fleets of development mules – one with a conventional oil damper and one without – but its test riders supposedly couldn’t tell the difference between them in terms of ride performance so it was decided to go without to save both weight and complexity."

from the escape collective article.

why would damping not be necessary? some kind of internal friction giving them some friction damping? travel so short the bouncing isn't too bothersome?
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Old 04-15-2024, 11:03 AM
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Agreeing with above about damping.. If not needed, I can sell anyone here a 650 x 47 bog standard WTB wheel and tire for less than $1100 (well, $1099) and you'll get lighter weight and 20mm of air sprung travel depending on pressure!
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