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Old 12-05-2019, 05:37 PM
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black AL brake track pics?

don't want to discuss the merits, i'd just like to see pics of how the new dark finish aluminum brake tracks are holding up. we all know how anodizing wears down, i'm talking about the new era brake surfaces like the boyd ceramics, mavic exalith, campy mille, etc.. if you've got a pic and maybe the number of miles you've put on em, that'd be great.
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:11 PM
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dont have pictures, but ive put 20k mi on my HED Ardennes Black with no fading on the brake track
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:44 PM
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my boyds are pretty bad in the back and mostly ok in the front, I will take pictures when I can.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:25 AM
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dont have pictures, but ive put 20k mi on my HED Ardennes Black with no fading on the brake track
I also have a set of Blacks as my everyday wheels and after years of hard use the sidewalls show no signs of wear.

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Old 12-06-2019, 05:04 PM
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dont have pictures, but ive put 20k mi on my HED Ardennes Black with no fading on the brake track
That's good to hear. How have the hubs held up?

The HED Black wheelset sounds pretty nice, too bad they are $$$. (And they don't offer the rims alone for sale AFAIK).
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:12 PM
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That's good to hear. How have the hubs held up?

The HED Black wheelset sounds pretty nice, too bad they are $$$. (And they don't offer the rims alone for sale AFAIK).
You didn't ask me but since I have the same wheels.....mine have held up very well. They are spooky smooth when you spin them and the ratchet is pretty quiet. I've used mine hard in all weather for a number of years and they still feel like new. I also like that they come apart with simple and common tools and they are super easy to service should the need arise.

One thing the Ardenne Black rims have that can get your attention right at first is a textured sidewall so they make a little noise when you use the brakes. It's not loud but it's there. It seems to lessen with use even though there's no sign of wear on the sidewall. The good thing is that the braking even in the wet is awesome. For me the very small amount noise while braking is worth how well the brakes work regardless of the weather.

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Old 12-06-2019, 07:47 PM
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IME, eventhought the anodizing in everything ive used is really good at some point will fade... there's no way to avoid that. Sometimes takes 5 years, sometimes 2 years, sometimes more than that.

One thing tho, some colors fade really ugly and other ones fade kind'a ok. Like for example black. Grey/dark grey like anodizing fades ugly IMO.
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Old 12-06-2019, 08:13 PM
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+1 on the HED Black wheels, I've been using them in dry and wet weather with no effect on the brake track. Hands down my favorite factory built clincher wheel to date.
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Old 12-07-2019, 04:25 AM
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And, what brake pads are people using with the HED Black rims?
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:06 AM
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And, what brake pads are people using with the HED Black rims?
Also have a set of Ardennes Black with turbine brake track. My favorite alloy wheelset and no wear. Hubs are super smooth.
When I used them with SRAM aerolink brake calipers, was using Kool Stop pads. Now running Record 11 calipers and using standard Campagnolo pads. Both work fine.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:13 PM
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I have Mavic R Sys on my Look 695 and Boyd's Altamont Lite Ceramics (I-9 hubs) on my Otrott, both with lot's of miles (not sure how many) with no problems and no fading...

I've had a number of black brake track Mavics, R-Sys and Ksyriums with no issues...I've read the criticisms over the years about Mavics but I've never had any issues aside from brake pad squeaking while they were breaking in...

I am considering a set of AForce AL33's or a set Mavic Ksyrium Pro Carbon SL UST's (I know, they're carbons!)

btw, the Boyds are mounted tubeless (with Schwalbe Ones/ Orange Seal) , again, no problems..great combo!
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Old 12-07-2019, 03:05 PM
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See pics below of my Al33 Ceramics (excuse the dirty bike). I purchased them secondhand on here and have put on 2,500 miles since through most types of conditions (dry, wet, light gravel). The purpleish color comes from the manufacturer recommended Swissstop BXP pads, which wear down really quick (especially fronts).



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Old 12-07-2019, 09:39 AM
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And, what brake pads are people using with the HED Black rims?
I am using standard Shimano pads and they work great.
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:23 PM
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It’s annoying to me that all these manufacturers with the exception of A force refuse to release the black sidewall version as rim only.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:02 PM
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I'll post pictures of my Al33 sometime this weekend. It's got some parts where the bare metal is showing but overall in decent condition.

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It’s annoying to me that all these manufacturers with the exception of A force refuse to release the black sidewall version as rim only.
You can get Boyd Altamont Ceramic (regular or lite) as rims only.
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