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All this seems reasonable even if a bit on the optimistic end of pricing IMHO. I understand what the market is offering, however anyone really interested in watches can do better than even 70% of the range above. If watches are an actual passion, one should first be a member of your local NAWCC chapter. Just like a bike community, this is where you will find connections both for service and opportunities to buy. My costs have been far less than what everyone has represented here both on acquisitions and on servicing, but I was as connected to the watch community as I am to the bike community. |
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By all means they're fun but it's a little silly to think they are safe investments and always will be. My taste in watches runs more Citizen or Seiko I guess, though I like a lot of the stuff people put pictures up of. My taste would either be dive styling or the vintage military styling. But I haven't worn a watch really since about 2015. I had a Titanium case/band Perpetual Calendar Citizen Eco Tech watch rated to 250m that I wore daily for about 10 years and loved... it had a Sapphire Crystal face and yet I somehow managed to scratch it horribly. ( my luck?) It was super accurate, < 10 seconds off in 6 months or something, just a lucky watch as they're not that accurate really I thought. I have had a few other watches since then, I had a Garmin, I have another cheaper Citizen right now that's military styled (leather strap), I bought an Apple Watch and returned it, I found it way too uncomfortable. Mostly nothing seems comfortable on my wrist anymore and I kind of gave up. I can't commit to wearing one anymore as I'm always wondering if they are irritating my wrist. Pulling my phone out of my pocket to check time is a little annoying but I type all day for work and play guitar and if a watch is going to irritate anything in my wrist at all it's worth the PITA of pulling the iPhone out. I think the only way I will go back to a watch is if I buy another watch with a really nice bracelet that can be adjusted perfectly, and watches start shrinking... my wrist isn't huge, and the current style of huge watch faces makes them less comfortable for me. On top of the Apple Watch being uncomfortable for me I found it breathtakingly inelegant and terrible from UI standpoint. I think there is 0 chance Steve Jobs would have ever let any of the Apple Watch models be released the way they are. Everything for him was either "this is f***ing terrible" or "this is totally awesome", and there is no way I believe he'd think they're totally awesome. None of the other smart watches are any better but at least some of the stuff like the Garmin Fenix models have a more traditional watch UI with push buttons. Last edited by benb; 03-22-2019 at 10:31 AM. |
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Any clock collectors here? I find old clocks totally facinating. Have an early 1700's tall case setting the pulse for the house next to me. 300 years old and keeps perfect time.
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My favorite is a black Queen Anne Style Seth Thomas wall clock. Bonus that it is the actual clock displayed in the Tran Duy Ly Seth Thomas Clocks and Movements reference book. You are very correct as to the drop in value and the state of current auctions reflect the market or lack thereof. |
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The closest thing that I have is a JLC Atmos (IIRC wallyman has one as well). It's a very interesting clock; temperature changes cause a gas filled bellows to expand and contract and that's what winds the mainspring. Mine was made in the 1950s.
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The rise of the micros has really changed my thinking about watches. For example the Deep Blue improved "Seiko SKX"
-- Windable and hackable Seiko movement -- sapphire crystal -- 300m WR -- Helium release valve (always important) -- Quality construction All for $150. Then look at the Swiss watches. Does it really cost $8k to make a Submariner? IMG_5990r by Robert Copple, on Flickr IMG_6009r by Robert Copple, on Flickr |
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Very nice. Atmos clocks are pretty cool.
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You need to give more context when stating your costs have been lower than what has been stated earlier. Did you buy new or used? Authorized dealer or gray market? Are you a current customer or a new one of the place where you bought it? Do you have Rolex service your watch? An authorized dealer? A non-authorized dealer? Last edited by NYCfixie; 03-22-2019 at 11:15 AM. |
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At this point, I would say sell it and take the cash and put it into mutual funds which will get a better return. At some point that "flaky patina-ed lume" which is what people prize so much will start to flake off and be all over the inside of the case. Then at the next service it will be removed and you will be stuck with an old watch, no lume, and not worth as much.
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That's sweet. Is the subdial for the seconds?
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Comparing an $8000 Rolex and a $150 other/whatever is comparing Apples and Oranges but you already know that. Rolex build and finishing is second to none if you consider that so many of them truly last forever they are worth it to many people. My 1994 Explorer II has been beat to $hit over the years and has always worked flawlessly. Just look at OldP's GMT Master which is probably from the 1960s, probably works great, and looks amazing. I just do not believe $150 watches will last the test of time.
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