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What happened, mostly, is that I pushed the same useless button over and over, saying some variation of "why isn't it doing what it's supposed to be doing?" With hindsight, it's always glaringly obvious.
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Possibly true - I have no personal knowledge of what is/is not in the flight manual. I would find it unacceptable that a pilot would fly any plane and not know the function of all switches or modules in the cockpit. What training/validation process would allow that? More than just the manufacturer is at fault if a pilot does not know all of the controls in his cockpit.
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I saw that there is a grand jury looking into this and the FBI is possibly involved because of the Seattle Times story. This is contrary to normal crash investigation practice where people are not threatened with jail due to the expectation that they be fully honest with the investigation. Will be really interesting to see how this plays out. |
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I was a flight instructor for a number of years (about 6000 flight hours in the logbook) and my biggest worry was signing off a student for their first solo flight.
I demonstrated spin entry and recovery, and would not sign a student off for solo flight until they had recovered from a spin. Spin recovery is not intuitive, and must be learned. Demonstrating entry into a spin also shows the flight attitude that (can) precipitate a spin. Of course stall entry and recovery is demonstrated and practiced before we move on to spin entry and recovery. I felt better as an instructor knowing that my students had shown me that they could recognize and recover from spins. I never want to receive THAT phone call. No instructor does.
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what I have gleamed this morning is the plane did not have the two options that Boeing now offers as standard. or did not offer when. I would guess that this does not bode well for Boeing and rightfully so if true. so wait you have to offer an option to make a plane safe to fly? it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. mean while Boeing stock has tanked over the last two days. I personally would not fly on a 737max until this is resolved.
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This may have killed more people more decisively than NOX has (though that's possibly debatable) but this is starting to look a lot like the dieselgate scandal in terms of corporate impact. Seems like some heads will have to roll at Boeing. Then again, different side of the political spectrum in charge now.
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Found this link on another (porsche) board- https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/22/bj...-crash-part-2/
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Someone tell me if I have this straight:
One way to fight a stall is to increase air speed, but if you increase it too much, you can get outside the safe flying envelope of the aircraft and cause blowback, which is just as dangerous? |
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If you think you're going to stall because you're getting bad data from your instruments, but aren't really going to stall, then you might try the wrong corrective action end up exceeding one of your airspeed limits. But if you're truly about to stall then your likelihood of going too fast is just about zero. Bottom line - the two conditions (stall and excessive speed) are not simultaneous, and in fact stalls are typically caused by airspeed being too low. Caveat: I'm not a pilot. |
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xactly. Pull all ya want, but the elevators are friggin stuck. And you fly faster when the plane exhibits stall behavior, because. Its coffin corner.
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Go over to pprune if you wanna od on this stuff. Cool place.
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I taught OOC/spin recovery in the mighty Combat Buckeye(T-2C) and even steely eyed fleet fighter guys sometimes gooned the recovery up and started whining like a nancy..Yup, spun the jet, even did inverted spins and tumbles..Stout little jet. Important to understand adverse yaw, proverse roll, etc. and what different control surfaces do when you stall and then spin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3XnBFDE_vQ BTW-for the other, stall vs airspeed..there is such a thing as high speed stalls..you yank on so much G that the boundry layer DOES separate from the wings=stall..but really unusual for an airliner.
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