Ti Frame too stiff?

[Kontact]

I think Conti 28s are a fair test. Just be sure to use an appropriately low tire pressure to actually get the benefit.

This chart is based on weight per wheel, rather than total weight:




Sorry if I'm voicing the obvious.

[mikmcconnell]

Useful chart. I had a similar chart based on total rider weight for 23 and 25mm tyres, but not for bigger. So that puts it at about 55 rear, 50 front on a 28.

That seems about right, maybe even a bit higher than I was thinking.

Originally Posted by Kontact

I think Conti 28s are a fair test. Just be sure to use an appropriately low tire pressure to actually get the benefit.

This chart is based on weight per wheel, rather than total weight:




Sorry if I'm voicing the obvious.

[shovelhd]

Originally Posted by mikmcconnell

So that puts it at about 55 rear, 50 front on a 28.

That's what I run on 28's, maybe a little higher if road conditions are ideal.

[mikmcconnell]

just rode a supersix evo hi-mod disc.

with a different wheelset though.

my initial impressions were that it was a lot better. i went for 20 miles on it.

then i got back on the IF and actually . . hell . . . pretty hard to tell.

28s might be sufficient if they fit. we will see.

OT: C40 sold pending payment.

[RyanH]

Keep in mind that the supersix has a comfort seatpost. Having owned a supersix with the same wheelset and same seatpost/saddle and bars, it was significantly harsher riding that my Litespeed T3 which is a fairly race oriented Ti frame.

[mikmcconnell]

Good reminder. That's where it was the smoothest actually . . .

Originally Posted by rchman

Keep in mind that the supersix has a comfort seatpost. Having owned a supersix with the same wheelset and same seatpost/saddle and bars, it was significantly harsher riding that my Litespeed T3 which is a fairly race oriented Ti frame.

[mikmcconnell]

Update.

28mm Contis made a huge difference.

But then I got a deal on a new Outback Carbon Breakaway so once that's built I'll probably be moving this one on.

So, if you're around 5'5" to 5'8" (ish), get in touch. I'll have a gorgeous IF on the market soonish.

[soulspinner]

Originally Posted by Climb01742

Anyone who's ever ridden a Serotta Legend built for someone else can attest that a Ti frame can be way too stiff. Yes, it's a generalization, but Legends were stiffer, and harsher, than most other Ti frames ever built. Not all but many.

Ti can be overbuilt just like any other set of pipes.

yup. Worked in a shop and rode a Serotta in my size (56) and felt every piece of dirt in the road. There is a correct compliance for each rider.

[eddief]

took a really long time to go nowhere at all.

What is the bottom line?

[mikmcconnell]

Originally Posted by eddief

took a really long time to go nowhere at all.

What is the bottom line?

Frame is very good with 28s - basically the same as a supersix.

Frame would be awesome if you wanted to race crits on it - just awesome.

I've realised I'm getting on a bit and the geo and soft ride of the ritchey is more my thing. That, and the travel issue from the breakaway is a real bonus.



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